LG 65EC9700 (USA) 4K OLED TV First Impressions

After numerous delays, LG’s 65EC9700 OLED TVs are beginning to trickle into stores – ironically just after the South Korean manufacturer announced a boatload of new televisions (in basically every category imaginable, sans plasma, of course) at the 2015 International CES. Building on the 55EC9300 – a display we found flawed, but promising – this new 65in TV adds the Ultra HD resolution of 3840×2160, which is often (conveniently, but not-quite-correctly) referred to as “4K”.

LG 65EC9700

As current fashion dictates, the panel is curved. While this isn’t a trend we understand or admire, the EC9700’s curve is fairly subtle, so it’s unlikely to deter potential buyers whose stomachs curl at the idea of owning their first non-flat screen since the vacuum tube days. More of a deterrent would be the $10,000 US price tag, although the cost of entry to bleeding-edge technology is never easy to swallow.

What you do get for this princely sum is a panel with the best minimum luminance level around (but perhaps not quite “the best blacks” – they’re not quite the same). The back of the LG 65EC9700 (marketed in the UK and Europe as the 65EC970V) features 4 HDMI inputs, one of which is explicitly labeled as supporting the new HDCP 2.2 copy protection standard. It ships with the company’s Magic Remote, which lifts the Nintendo Wii’s motion controlled pointing and applies it to the Smart TV interface. An HEVC decoder is on board also, if you’d like to watch internet-quality UHD (ultra high-definition) video via Netflix, Amazon or similar, through the TV’s own Smart TV interface.

Bells and whistles are all well and good, but at HDTVTest, our number one priority is picture quality – all aspects of picture quality. The earlier EC9300 served as a reminder that amazing contrast performance is one thing, but numerous other smaller problems dampened what would otherwise have been runaway enthusiasm and left us wishing that LG’s attention to finer details in the video processing department was as lovable as the deep blacks. Accordingly, it didn’t take us long to take a colorimeter to the front of the EC9700 so we could begin analysis on the OLED advocate’s latest effort.

Notice: these panels are in such short supply that we have had to publish this article as a more lightweight “first impressions” piece. The reason? Our friends at Value Electronics in Scarsdale, NY have a huge backlog of orders, and every 65EC9700 that comes in is en route to a paying (and waiting!) customer. We were able to assess this particular unit only thanks to a particularly patient buyer. The level of anticipation for this display is so high that we decided to publish in this format and update the review with fully-fledged conclusions later, rather than keep readers waiting.

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Preliminary Calibration

After putting the EC9700 into the [ISF Expert1] mode and setting the black level (“Brightness”) control appropriately, its grayscale tracking was of a good standard for an uncalibrated display, with the color of white being skewed towards blue. Gamma was less satisfactory, the average 2.1 curve and the slightly milky-looking image being at odds with its world-beating zero absolute black. (2.4 is the number to aim for as per studio mastering practice).

Calibrating grayscale using the two-point controls was relatively straightforward, although we’d prefer if LG were to design some other way of interfacing with the TV, because their menu design affects the measurements and is slow to use. Being able to have only the video image on screen and to write changes into the display via a laptop would be hugely beneficial for owners. In our first attempts, we achieved decent, but not great, grayscale tracking using the 2-point controls, with blue falling out in the midtones.

Again, gamma was a little less satisfactory, with the “2.4” menu option actually producing something closer to 2.3 when assessed with standard 18% window patterns.

We did attempt calibration using the 20-point grayscale controls, but ran into the same problem we did with the 55EC9300: employing these introduced additional contouring artefacts into the image. We’ve seen reports of workarounds online, but even using LG’s suggested method, we still ran into trouble with the 20-point grayscale controls adding additional contouring artefacts into video. The fact that the on-screen display that appears during calibration causes the Automatic Brightness Limiting (ABL) to kick in adds yet another layer of complexity, requiring the “scratch and sniff” method of closing the menu, measuring, digging back through the menu, offsetting, closing the menu, and seeing how far off you were. This is a monumental pain, especially when you take into account that LG’s WebOS-powered menu is one of the slower-responding on the market.

On top of that, we’re still not sure about how the LG OLEDs’ grayscale and gamma tracking shift when the APL (average picture level, or average brightness of the scene being displayed) changes – even once the aforementioned menu issue is taken out of the equation. This is probably the reason for the contouring issues we’re running into when attempting to use the 20-point controls: the changes we dial in might hit the accurate sweet spot for the exact APL of the test patterns, but might not translate properly to the various APLs seen during real content. For the record, plasma display panels (PDPs) featured the same problem, but it was kept under control.

We’ve not spent enough time with the 65EC9700 yet to say that it’s impossible to get good results from the 20-point controls, but at best, fully calibrating these displays is going to be a lengthy and counter-intuitive task until LG fixes the menu and the inner workings.

On the charts, color accuracy measured brilliantly after only a 2-point grayscale adjustment, and attempting to use the [Color Management] controls only served to create non-linearities in the x,y coordinates of the colors at less saturated levels. Accordingly, we left the CMS controls alone and had no complaints with regard to color. (The only bug we did notice was that, somehow, the saturation tracking became severely distorted, something that was fixed by turning the TV off and on again).

The biggest problems we found relate to screen uniformity at low luminance levels. This manifests itself in two ways. After aligning the [Brightness] control correctly, we stepped through the darkest just-above-black shades (0.5, 1, 1.5, 2 IRE, etc.) and saw that the middle of the panel had a streaky, mottled appearance both with test patterns and low-APL content (dark scenes). We say the middle of the panel specifically, because the far left and far right appeared as zero black. In other words, the middle was non-uniform and a touch too bright, the edges were zero black so too dark. Ideally, the entire screen should appear as a solid shade of very dark gray. Reducing the [Brightness] control and therefore crushing some shades of black could help to conceal the problem, but obviously, crushing out shadow details is hardly ideal, and we’re unsure if this actually avoids the quirk or just pushes it higher up in the luminance range.

Additionally, with a 10 IRE or 20 IRE full screen, we could see some very unusual vertical stripes. Unlike the “jail bar” non-uniformity issues commonly seen on LCD TVs, the stripes on the LG OLEDs actually have hard edges, suggesting they are occurring at the panel driving stage rather than being only physical imperfections. That’s just our best guess – we’re still learning how the few OLED displays we have access to actually operate, so welcome any panel engineer insight on this. (The upcoming release of a flat OLED television in 2015 will let us see if the curved screen exacerbates uniformity issues or not).

Relating this observation to real-world performance, it’s obvious that test patterns, by their nature, stress the display so its performance can be thoroughly examined. From the time we spent with the EC9700 and dark content, we did see this flaw pop up in dark scenes from time to time. It appears that by crushing out some low-end shadow detail, its effect can be reduced, but that’s obviously far from ideal given OLED’s other black reproduction strengths.

Moving on to frequency response, there’s great news: LG have jettisoned the detail-reducing non-optional noise reduction system that’s still present on the EC9300. (There was some debate as to whether “noise reduction” was actually the intended effect as to what was happening; we were giving the display the benefit of the doubt by suggesting a misguided purpose for it rather than calling it a flat-out error – it was ugly regardless). In our review of the LG 55EC9300, we discussed this over a large quantity of paragraphs for the simple reason that from a video purist standpoint, there was no excuse for this sort of deliberate tampering – in contrast to, say, the aforementioned uniformity problems, which are obviously an engineering challenge that hasn’t yet been overcome. Now it’s gone, so our thanks go to LG for listening to this feedback and attending to our video purist desires. (There’s still the separate, optional [Noise Reduction] control in the menu if you’re watching a source with particularly grizzly video-generated fuzz). It’s a big step in the right direction and will only endear LG to the video purist audience who will likely make up a decent number of early adopters for these displays.

Subjective Impressions

We had a look at Sin City in a light-controlled theater environment, and were incredibly impressed by the glossy, rich, contrasty image. In the past, this title was an ideal choice for assessing individual tolerance of “phosphor trails” (flashes of light, usually green or yellow) on plasmas (and still is a good choice for looking for colored flashes on one-chip DLP projectors), but of course there is no such issue to be seen on the LG 65EC9700, since it is a sample-and-hold display.

Back in a brighter environment, the black-level performance remains outstanding. It’s a clear step above the final plasma TVs, which produced excellent black-level performance in darkened environments, but required specialized screen coatings to stand a chance of producing acceptable blacks when faced with sunlight. Of course, put the EC9700 near enough to a window and you’ll still see reflections of the outside world, but as on an LCD, they don’t visibly affect the black level quality.

There’s a little bit of contouring lingering in the 65EC9700’s images. We know that calibrating using the 20-point grayscale control greatly increases the risk of introducing this error, but it stills appears, subtly, even if the calibration controls are not used. Presumably, that’s because the same flawed processing is being used to perform some sort of under-the-hood offsetting even if the user hasn’t themselves engaged the controls. It can cause smooth textures, such as grain, or gradient-like light spilling from a lamp, to appear subtly coarse and ‘etched’.

During our brief time with the LG 65EC9700, we weren’t able to do a side-by-side comparison to rule out the color problems we found on the 55EC9300. On that display, using even the 2-point grayscale controls distorted blue colors towards a sickly cyan-green, although we’ve also read reports that other calibrations of that older display have gone well, suggesting that it could be another bug under the hood that not everyone has had the honor of experiencing.

So far, our impressions are much the same as with the EC9300, of course with our undefeatable noise reduction complaint fixed: difficult to calibrate, some contouring and screen unevenness, and critically for many, the world’s deepest MLL (minimum luminance level). We do not expect motion quality to be any better than LCD-grade based on casual observation of high motion content and assessment of the earlier model, but will withhold judgment until we can say for sure.

Preliminary Benchmark Test Results

Dead pixels One stuck white subpixel, one stuck red subpixel, very difficult to see on UHD panel
Screen uniformity Issues with hard-edged “columns” visible; extreme shading at far left and right of panel, visible in some darker scenes
Top-left edge of panel more blue than bottom right with full field white
Peak Usable Light Output 251 cd/m2 (73 fL) with 18% window, 319 cd/m2 (93 fL) with 5% window
Calibrated black level (black screen) 0 cd/m2 (0 fL)
Calibrated black level (4×4 ANSI) 0.0001 cd/m2 (0.00003 fL)
Black level retention Tradeoff between crushing black details and avoiding “floating” in middle of panel
Primary chromaticity Very good (except for a one-off bug we ran into)
Scaling TBD
Video mode deinterlacing TBD
Film mode deinterlacing TBD
Viewing angle TBD
Motion resolution TBD
Digital noise reduction Present, optional
Sharpness No visible ringing, but occasional misplaced pixels (except in PC Mode) around fine text – not visible outside of computer use or disc menus
Luma/Chroma bandwidth (2D Blu-ray) TBD
1080p/24 capability No judder with [Real Cinema] engaged
Input lag (high-speed camera) TBD
Leo Bodnar input lag tester TBD
Full 4:4:4 reproduction (PC) TBD

Final First Impressions

The LG 65EC9700 carries over most of the characteristics of its sister 1080p model, the 55EC9300. In a nutshell, that means world-beating zero-black performance, and off-axis viewing angle quality that’s better than anything else on the market (albeit a small amount behind the now-extinct plasmas). Of course, the pixel count is now quadrupled thanks to the 3840×2160 resolution, and LG have listened to our complaint with the smaller 55EC9300’s rogue detail-reducing non-optional noise reduction feature, which is now happily in the rear-view mirror, allowing for full detail for all sources to be make it out of the panel.

Nobody else has (re-)entered the OLED arena to challenge LG’s #1 black level spot – they’re still the only company pulling off the feat of getting these panels into consumers homes. What’s more, addressing the noise reduction issue is a good sign that LG are on the right track and are listening to video purist interests.

If you currently own a high-quality plasma display such as one of Panasonic or Samsung’s later outings, we do not recommend that you get rid of it for an OLED just yet. The EC9700’s uniformity issues are something LG should investigate, and its performance with high-motion content such as sports is still more LCD than PDP.

Of course, we’re optimistic that the improvements will continue with each new generation of displays. Since the 65EC9700 took a while to get to market (the LG 65EC970V British-equivalent model isn’t even available in the wild yet), it does not necessarily represent LG’s latest and greatest engineering achievements – it’s nearly of the same kin as the already-reviewed EC9300, after all, and it’s already an improvement on that. To really see what we can expect in the future, we’ll need to look at LG’s 2015 OLED product, rather than the 2014 hold-overs – and we’re hoping that can happen sooner rather than later. For now, we can be hopeful that, as an improvement over the earlier effort, LG is on the right track.

34 comments

  1. It’s got great blacks so to hell with any issues it may have, just give it the reference or highly recommended badge right now. ( yes there is sarcasm in this post )

  2. Thanks for the first impressions, David.
    Very happy to read, that they got rid of the undefeatable DNR. So LG DOES listen.
    Now if only LG could get those near black uniformity issues (“vertical stripes/banding” and “shadow edges”) under control.
    Regarding the calibration control, what do you think about the webOS 2.0 version which seems to place them on the right edge of the screen?
    Hope you can measure the input lag correctly with both PC label and game mode enabled.

  3. @FoxyMulder:
    Touché. There’s more to a high quality display than MLL. We’ve seen this effect already here in the US with the Sharp Elite displays.

    @Yappa:
    I haven’t used that version yet, so can’t yet comment.

  4. Thank you dave for this review , but what is the actual resolution of this panel with moving objects since it is a sample and hold oled panel , also please focus more on its upscaling performance since i live in a country where sd still rules .

  5. Thanks for the review David – always first (nearly) and always honest!

    However, when you do get to test one of the new 65″ flat ones .. do me a favour…. If its not quite right just lie and revert to “What !”£$” mode and just say its brilliant and the best thing ever..

    I cant wait any longer!!! I love my Kuro but I want one of these!!

    Joking aside… be interested on your thoughts on HDR and the new 2015 models. If they’re capable then fine ( I don’t think they are?) but if not how big a difference do you think it makes?

  6. Sould i trade my ISF calibrated Panasonic ZT60 to this??

  7. @polanofesky:
    Not yet tested, since this isn’t a review, but a first impressions work in progress. It’s probably the same as before, 300 lines.

    @PJR:
    HDR is really, really cool when there is HDR enabled content to drive the panel. This is what the UHD Alliance is about.

    @thomas:
    Answer is in the text.

  8. Thanks David. Have I got it wrong then? – wouldn’t be the first time.. I thought the TV had to be able to process HDR as a specific type of content and it needed significant ( ie greater than OLED can do) light output to get the dynamic range to display it?

    I really don’t want somebody to say I need to wait again as HDR will make such a big difference! I know that HDR content is currently non existent (pretty much) but its like the first time you saw decent HD… once you’d seen it you had to have it!

  9. http://hdtvtest.co.uk/news/netflix-hdr-201501063983.htm

    Well this very site suggests HDR on these new 2015 LG OLED models……

    I’m pretty confused!

  10. … See I am dumb. Your article else where on the new 2015 LG OLED TV’s say they will have HDR…

    So how will they mange if their light output isn’t high enough?

  11. PJR, no, you’re right. HDR needs capability both on the silicon side and on the display side.

    I’m not sure what LG’s HDR claims are, but the UHD Alliance spec calls for peak light output of 1,000 cd/m2. I’d be very surprised if they could go that high on a phosphor-driven display without running into burn/longevity issues, but it’ll be very interesting to see – perhaps they can come close and produce a great HDR image. We’ll see.

  12. Thank you david for answering me , but i didn`t understand what 300 lines mean ? does it damn it mean [ 3840 x 300 ] or please dont say it { 1920 x 300 } ? please dont dissapoint your readers .

  13. 300 lines is 300 lines of motion resolution, the display is still 3840×2160.

    300 Lines is about what current LCD tech does, it’s what low end DLP projectors do, it’s okay for watching typical 24p film content but it’s not a patch on a good plasma which was 900 to 1080 lines of motion resolution.

    I tested my Optoma HD131x projector, i bought that specifically for 3D content, it’s perfect, zero crosstalk, one of the most difficult titles for crosstalk is House Of Wax, more sites should test 3D using that title, on DLP there is no crosstalk with that one, i even bought an i1Pro Display 3 and Chromapure to calibrate everything, what’s my point, why am i rambling, because i can, probably so but my point is that my Optoma is not as good as the Samsung E6500 plasma for motion, i like to use the opening titles of the blu ray of West Side Story to test motion, i feel it’s superior on my plasma.

    I know this site looks down upon 3D, they feel it’s dead, i disagree, it is of course not helped by mediocre 3D conversions from Hollywood that only incorporate depth and lack any pop out moments but 3D is not dead, many still enjoy it, i just finished watching The Young and Prodigious T.S. Spivet, an import blu ray from france, highly recommended, beautiful film and they really used 3D well, no gimmicks here, the popout is well planned and part of the production, now why can’t Hollywood do that, oh i know, they convert and don’t plan ahead.

    For me i look forward to more advancements not only in televisions but especially in projectors, i think they would need 12 bit colour to achieve the Rec.2020 standard otherwise banding may appear, hopefully they will head that way and i hope Texas Instruments brings out some new DLP chips for the home market, it’s been so many years since that happened, we need better black levels at affordable prices, sure Dark Chip 4 and a nice Sim 2 has decent blacks but we need DLP projectors that can compete with the Epson Laser and JVC LCoS projectors, we also need entry level ones that compete with the likes of the Sony HW40.

    I think there are exciting times ahead for us tech geeks.

  14. Thank you Fox for Answering me .

    well , I agree with you that 300 lines refer to motion performance test patterns NOT to actual resolution of screens , thats why a plasma with 700 lines { f8500 } has better motion performance reviews than lcd with 1200 lines { f8000 } , { according to cnet } so , to be honest with you i dont think current devices that created to measure 1080p lcd panels are { valid } to measure 4k oled tvs .

    However , all of this still cant change my mind about oled : infinite black , infinite reponse time , infinite resolution , accurate colors and impressive video processing . I Really think that every oled tv should take a { highly recommended } verdict { save reference for an oled that solve the small issues }. although i dont think that will ever be an oled that can hold a candel to david mackenzie tests. { thank you two }

  15. @Polanofesky:
    Infinite response time (near-zero response time) doesn’t really matter if the display is still using sample and hold without some attempt to emulate an impulse display. The pixels can change as fast as they want to, but your eyes and brain will still perceive blur.

    There is no such thing as “infinite resolution”. What do you mean by that?

    Lastly, “accurate colors” and “impressive video processing” depend on each individual model, so you can’t tie those together with the panel technology (OLED) as if it will apply to all of them.

  16. I’m disappointed about the light output. Going from 319 nit @ 5% window to 251 nit @ 18% suggests that the full screen white to be a pitiful 45 nit.

    This is surprising considering the amazing 93 nit full screen white for the UK LG 55EC930V that Vincent Reviewed :

    “we measured light output to be 93 cd/m2 and 356 cd/m2 on a full-field 100% white and a corresponding windowed pattern respectively”
    http://hdtvtest.co.uk/news/55ec930v-201412163962.htm

    Are UK power consumption regulations less aggressive ?

  17. Doubt it. It’ll be down to screen size and possibly resolution.

  18. Ahhh.. smaller pixels. Cheers David

    Maybe that suggests their 2160P HDR Prototype is only 60% brighter than these 2160p displays and not the 1080p ones.

    I was hoping their luminance efficiency developments had led them to greater than 120 nit full screen whites (FSW) But 1.6x (72 nits) would still be an amazing step up from my GT60’s 45. Although the HDR model could still be limiting the brightness just as aggressively for FSW. Although if it was say 45 nits FSW then that would suggest only about 6% of the screen could be 800 nit for those HDR details on a black background and that’s never goanna happen. So surely they must have brighter FSW to allow for HDR to add anything.

    I’m hoping and assuming the future HDR formats will work by maintaining the common 120 nit peak for most of the frame. So 120 nit is what you would calibrate for and that’s what is expected during content production. Then during Blu-ray authoring say, metadata limits for the HDR highlights can bet set.

    That way HDR content could look uniformly great on all displays. But brighter sets can bring out small bright highlights that simply adds extra flair that doesn’t detract too much from details in the rest of the frame. The metadata brightness limits would ensure that a large explosion isn’t so bright that it robs detail from the rest of picture that would have been visible otherwise on non HDR displays.

    If that’s how it pans out I do hope potential OLED HDR displays have a feature to disable HDR. Because if OLED can’t get 120 nit FSW then your going to get distracting HDR highlights flicking on and off as the APL changes to stop brightness being robbed from the majority of the frame. At least if they can do 120 nits FSW the HDR highlights will dim and brighten as were used to on ABL sets.

  19. Ahh didn’t realise a HDR standard had already been speced.

    100 nits is the new peak white for HDR content on Ultra HD Blu-ray using ST-2084 PQ HDR Gamma Metadata
    http://vimeo.com/109894755

    It will be interesting to see how the new PQ Gamma standard spreads video levels for low light content as supporting OLED panels may require an amazing step up in precision.

  20. ^ I think you mean 1000 nits :D

  21. Doh. 100 nits would be the new 235 video level for mastering. Although with 10-bit PQ Gamma I guess it would be 470 and 1000 nits would be 940. Assuming were sticking with 64-940 rather than 0-1023.

  22. @David Mackenzie

    Response time is too important to me because it makes oled images significantly smoother than the best plasmas , add infinite contrast and 4k to the mix , and pictures will further enhance their smoothness , i`m talking about oled picture type NOT motion performance , since i rarely see any blur on my current “60hz” lcd .

    what i mean by { infinite resolution} is a resolution that exceed human vision since { 7 millions of pixels is all what matter to our eyes } http://youtube.com/watch?v=4I5Q3UXkGd0

    As high end product it must be equipped with high end video processor and colors techs, that further enhance everything you watch .

  23. @polanofesky

    I agree with smoothness. I have yet to spend any time with OLED but I assume the image is rock solid without any of the LCD style overdrive tricks and colour transitions

    Sample and Hold vs Impulse type displays is certainly a matter of preference. You don’t get the flicker with S & H. But for me personally growing up with Impulse CRT has stained my mind with what I expect. Watching a replay on a racing game is the prime example where the blur just makes me think this ain’t right.

    As much as I hate the DFE and the phosphor trails of plasma the blur of S & H wouldn’t be bearable for me. I can see myself picking up a S & H only OLED though to go along side my plasma if I want HDCP 2.2 only content or my Plasma get’s unbearably dim or breaks and I’m unable to repair it and I can’t source a much brighter one.

    That’s assuming OLED’s uniformity, DSE and input lag issues have been resolved and the lifespan matches plasma’s 100k hours or preferably an overnight uneven wear adaption mode is added. Otherwise I’d have to go with LCD for HDCP 2.2 and disable any local dimming. But for me to get LCD the plasma would have to get pretty darn dim.

    Hopefully sooner than that though OLED’s will have the stability, driving tech and responsiveness to allow the user to switch between S & H and Impulse without any noticible change in input lag and have sufficient brightness with any frame rate ,including adaptive. And the world will unite under one display tech…. and their will be no poverty or war.

  24. This site:
    http://flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1421919922

    Suggests all of LG’s 2015 OLED’s will deliver around 80 nits full screen white and have true 10-bit precision. It also suggests that they will all be enabled with PQ Gamma HDR with a future firmware update.

    On the other hand CNET suggest that the 80 nit capability is not part of of the current 2015 OLED line up

    Can anyone confirm or deny this ?

  25. Flat panels said that lg oled tvs will be capabel of 800nits on ( 10% window not 100 ) no one knows for sure how it could be bright on 100% window , but i think it is 2016 or later when high end hdtvs will fully support 1000 nits for high dynamic range .

  26. @polanofesky

    I just figured 80 nits full screen as unless some restricition was applied then within the same power budget if you can do 800 on 10% you could do at least 80 on 100%. It could be brighter still, but I’m a pesimist.

  27. @Morgs

    If 80nits= 80cd/m2 , Then don’t worry even current oled sets are capable of more .

  28. @polanofesky

    Yeah nits & cd/m2 are the same. The TV in this review suggests it only does 45 nits full screen white.

    319 nit @ 5%
    251 nit @ 18%

    45 nit @ 100% (0.18 x 251)

    I know Vincent said 93 nits full screen white though.

  29. wow all these imperfections with the 2014 oleds tvs is beginning to make me wonder if paying the kind of money lg want for them is really worth it. I have looked at other review sites on this model and they make the tv out to be the perfect tv of all time. is there anyway that you could youtube your final review on this tv as all this tech jargon is above my head and would be more informative as a visual aid in helping those of us who are interested in buying lgs 4k oled tv make our decision. or of making a video and have anyone interested pay for the download of your findings. great stuff David I will be keeping my eyes peeled for more of your reviews on these tvs on this web sight in the future.

  30. Hi all,

    looking at 65EC970V or 65EG960V

    Which one should I buy and why?

    Other than audio output and aesthetics they seem fairly similar…..

    Thanks in advance

    Rob

  31. @Rob: Get the 65EG960V which is HDR-compatible.

    Warmest regards
    Vincent

  32. Thanks @Vincent