Sony PS4 Performs Worse Than PS3 As A Blu-ray & DVD Player

New home entertainment console launches only roll around once every 6-7 years, with hardware shortages, pre-release hype, and the rabidly competitive nature of the gaming industry coming together to make each one a noteworthy event. That’s of course the case with Sony’s PlayStation 4, which has so far been doing fine business for the Japanese giant, and naturally follows in the footsteps of the PS3, which remained of interest to AV users for its perfectly accurate Blu-ray Disc output quality. The PS3’s adeptness at playing Blu-ray was arguably a key point in doing away with the rival HD DVD format.

Sony PS4

Sony’s decision to include Blu-ray (BD-ROM) drives in every PS3 unit wasn’t a hugely popular one at the time, with the then-fledgling technology contributing to the machine’s $599 US launch price tag. But history proved Sony correct, with all three next-gen consoles using Blu-ray in some form. Microsoft’s Xbox One is a bona-fide BD machine, and for games, Blu-ray Disc Association founding member Panasonic supplied a “black-book” format which is derived from Blu-ray (they also supplied “DVD-like” technology and drives for the Nintendo Gamecube and Wii, although Nintendo machines have never been officially able to play films from disc).

With Blu-ray now entrenched as one of several possible ways to watch films at home (and obviously the highest quality one) and HD DVD no more than a curiosity, there’s less riding on the success of the PS4 from an AV perspective. In fact, Sony Computer Entertainment (SCE) have been playing coy and have marketed their system as the anti-Xbox choice from the earliest opportunity, reassuring players who were disappointed with Microsoft’s heavy emphasis on television integration features by reminding them that PlayStation is “for the players” and is all about gaming.

HDTVTest took delivery of a Sony PS4 pre-Christmas, and we’ve been checking the system’s media playback features out (as well as also playing a good amount of Warframe, but don’t tell anyone that). It’s a games machine first and foremost, but for curious users still on the fence about the next-gen, how well does it fulfil its secondary features? Let’s find out.

Note: this review concerns the most recent PS4 system software at the time of publication (December 16, 2013, version SU-30733-6).

Design

Clearly remembering the criticism of the original PS3 design, Sony has (almost) nailed it first time with the styling of the PS4. Most of the system uses sleek matte black plastic, and the entire design is slanted: rather than being boxy, the edges are tilted backwards. The Blu-ray drive is hidden on the front, as are two USB ports. Most impressively, there is no external power supply needed – despite the system’s small size, that’s been built in.

Our only real criticism of the machine is that one of the panels on top is gloss black, which means it will no doubt soon succumb to scratches when it’s cleaned. Other than that, it’s a very sleek unit.

Dashboard

The PlayStation 4 makes an immediate good first impression with its streamlined menus. They’re simple but tasteful at the same time in a way which the boxy Windows 8-ish interface of the Xbox One is not. On top of that, there’s (optional) background music. Call us sentimental, but this small touch gives a soothing feeling and might well create a sense of wonder in all but the most stoic of gamers.

PS4 video menu

There are few AV options to set up, with [Video Output Settings] containing controls governing resolution, TV size (for certain 3D content), as well as video levels settings for RGB and Y/Cb/Cr output formats, which we never had to touch.

Blu-ray Playback

To us, the Sony PS4 appeared to have Blu-ray playback software on board from the get-go. Apparently that’s not actually the case, but it was downloaded so seamlessly that it may as well have been.

PlayStation 4 Blu-ray app

Unlike the Xbox One, the PS3 happily played back our recordable Blu-ray Discs containing our custom test patterns. BD-R playback isn’t a killer issue for most people who are only watching store-bought movies on factory-pressed discs, but blocking it is such a comparatively useless anti-piracy measure that we wonder why Microsoft bothered.

In any case, we were effortlessly able to confirm top-notch, totally accurate, unadulterated playback of Blu-ray movies against several other known-good reference players. That’s a small advantage over the Xbox One’s very good Blu-ray playback, which has a small (but generally not noticeable) lightness inaccuracy in its output.

Spider Baby

There’s no noise reduction or other unwanted processing, no loss of resolution in the luma (brightness) or obvious loss of resolution in the chroma (colour) channel, pixel cropping, chroma upsampling jaggies, or other nasties to spoil the party with 24p content, which accounts for the majority of footage on Blu-ray. With 24p content, you provide the disc, the PS4 dutifully reproduces it. This alone will be enough to make the Sony PlayStation 4 a very usable BD player for most gamers.

That’s the end of the good news, however. If you play 1080i content on the PS4, you’ll find that the system deinterlaces it, and does a poor job of it. There doesn’t seem to be any semi-advanced motion-adaptive deinterlacing on the PS4 at all, with the entire screen (and not just the moving areas) being deinterlaced with a fairly crude algorithm. Visually, that translates into fine details flickering slightly. Of course, it’s more obvious in test charts than it is in content, but the resolution is being lost either way.

Nearly all films are stored at 24p so don’t count on seeing any issues with those, but if you play a video-based concert or documentary on the machine, you’ll be getting lessened vertical resolution compared to what you’d get from a better Blu-ray player such as the PS3, or nearly any standalone player.

Don’t think about setting the output to 1080i to send 1080i discs out in their native format, either: this compounds the problem. Even with the output set to 1080i, all 1080i content is deinterlaced internally and then output. There’s no native path for 1080i Blu-ray content on the PS4 (yet?), everything goes through the sub-par 1080p conversion process.

The diagonal interpolation test (which tests for a player’s ability to smooth jaggies during interlace to progressive conversion) didn’t return good results either, with jaggies being obvious on steep angles.

Unsurprisingly with all of this in mind, there is no provision made for film mode deinterlacing (detecting the presence of film content stored in an interlaced signal). Just so it’s clear, here are the tests from the 60hz tests on the Spears & Munsil disc:

  • 2-2 (30fps inside 60i): Fail
  • 2-2-2-4: Fail
  • 2-3-2-3 PF-T (24fps inside 60i with MPEG metadata): Fail
  • 2-3-2-3 (24fps inside 60i): Fail
  • 2-3-2-3: Fail
  • 2-3-3-2: Fail
  • 3-2-3-2-2: Fail
  • 5-5: Fail
  • 6-4: Fail
  • 8-7-8-7: Fail
  • Time-adjusted: Fail

Likewise, for European users watching European content (BBC TV shows are an obvious example), it’s worth knowing that the Blu-ray format does not have provision for 25p, so all of this content is encoded at 50i, and accordingly falls foul of the PS4’s lack of deinterlacing capabilities. With 1080i HD content, this is actually not a gigantic problem, and we imagine most users won’t notice owed to the high HD resolution masking the resolution loss. It’s still poorer quality than many standalone players, however.

It’s a strange decision on Sony’s part, because when first launched, the PS3 system simply output 1080i content as 1080i (natively), meaning that the other components in the user’s AV system (AV receiver or TV) would do the deinterlacing. We’d hope this is something Sony addresses with a system update – either give us good deinterlacing with film mode detection, or just output the 1080i content as pure 1080i and let another device that has the same capabilities take care of it.

DVD Playback

The PS4’s lack of deinterlacing prowess is a much bigger problem in the standard definition realm, where there’s much more interlaced content, and where every last drop of available resolution is precious.

The good news is that progressively flagged content on DVD is fine. That means that almost every American NTSC DVD containing a film will play back without any obvious artefacts on the Sony PS4. Film content that’s been encoded as interlaced, where the studio has passed the duty of interlace-to-progressive conversion onto the consumer’s playback hardware, will display with the aforementioned jaggies, of course magnified owed to the lesser SD resolution. As with HD, there is no film mode detection at all beyond the common reading of MPEG metadata (repeat field flags).

Adding to the PlayStation 4’s suitability as a DVD player – for American/Japanese-centric NTSC content – is its high quality scaling. The PS3’s spatial interpolation (literally how new pixels are created to fill the HD resolution from the low-res SD source) was novel for its time, and the PS4 appears to follow much of the same lead but without quite as much a synthetic finish (diagonal edges appear slightly less smoothed over, and you’ll likely never see a hint of aliasing even if you do find one of the few DVDs that has any sharp high frequency detail in it to start with).

That’s fine for the NTSC territories, but European users will not be too surprised to hear that PAL DVDs are not optimally handled by the Sony PS4. There are several esoteric features inside the DVD spec that allow a disc and the video on it to be marked as interlaced or progressive, but the long and short of it is that none of the PAL discs we tried played back optimally even if the flags on the disc were properly set (in PAL-land, almost none of them are). There is no 2:2 cadence detection for PAL films – in this area the PS4 is beaten by the Xbox One, which does do correct film mode deinterlacing.

The bottom line: the Sony PlayStation 4 treats all standard-def DVD content except for NTSC progressively flagged DVDs as interlaced, and its deinterlacing is not good. At least, the PS4 doesn’t make the Xbox One’s mistake of outputting 50hz content as 60hz, so doesn’t create judder. Instead, its lack of film mode detection means that PAL DVD – and we imagine many of our readers do have significant DVD collections – displays with lessened vertical resolution when compared to a good standalone.

Conclusion

Although at first glance it appears to be a more polished media device than the Xbox One, the PS4 disappointed us in several areas with its media playback capabilities (or lack thereof).

If you’re using the device to play 24p movies on Blu-ray (which admittedly will be most people’s usage as far as that format is concerned), it’s all good news. Outside of that use, it’s a worse disc player than the PS3 was at launch, and we hope to see its performance with interlaced video content improved. Also, unlike the PlayStation 3, the PS4 doesn’t support 3D Blu-ray playback at this time of writing.

Both next-gen consoles have failed in some areas, with neither the Xbox One or the PlayStation 4 being able to play PAL DVDs optimally: the PS4 produces jaggies owed to the lack of film mode detection for PAL content, and the Xbox One produces stutter owed to using an incorrect refresh rate.

That’s a little disappointing given the precedent set by the PS3. That Sony’s machine was promoted as being for gamers first and foremost makes it a little more understandable, and perhaps less worthy of scorn than Microsoft’s lofty claims of their equally troubled Xbox One being the only box necessary underneath your TV. As with that machine, we look forward to seeing the PS4’s video processing quality improve, because it’s a seriously nice-feeling piece of hardware. If you’re a video enthusiast who wants to get the best from all their discs, don’t count on either of the next-gen consoles replacing your standalone player just yet.

Qualified Recommendation

33 comments

  1. Thanks for the detailed review David, interesting stuff. Are there any hints as to Sony introducing 3D playback on the PS4? I cant officially retire my PS3 until they resolve that. Until then I’ll have to live with my overcrowded TV stand.

  2. Holly crap thanx for this amazing review again !! PS4 is a HUG HUGE dissapointement….i am NOT getting a ps4 until sony RESOLVES all of theses A/V issues !!!!!!

  3. Very pleased so far here, all my Blu-Rays play just fine. The areas where the PS4 is initially weak, are areas that nobody will notice (who uses 1080i in 2014?)

    Sony patched the initial deficiencies in the PS3 playback very quickly back in 2006, I have no doubt they will do the same again this time around, not that real users will actually notice.

    More a bigger concern is the current lack of a dedicated AV remote. That’s WAY bigger than anything mentioned here. Again, early 2014 for one of those.

    The PS4 is an amazing bit of kit, and these couple of quirks are easilly ironed out. Sadly idiots will still be linking to this article 3 years from now, and pretending it’s still valid.

  4. Actually my PS4 plays without any problems from Blu-ray or DVD playback. People who are not wanting a PS4 just because of this is downright crazy any console at any given time can have these issues.

  5. I use 1080P in everything on my Samsung HDTV

  6. Thanks so much HDtv Test ……..horrible test results

  7. My PS4 plays without any problems from Blu-ray or DVD playback.

  8. Rubish article, Microsoft payed people to make this up. Give Sony some time to fix the system performance.

  9. This is dumb. Why does anyone give a crap about old 1080i? Everyone has 1080p now. If you can’t afford a cheap HDTV now don’t buy a fancy game console. This seems like a lot of nothing.

  10. This is dumb. The ps4 is intended for hd media consumption why would sony care for the minute amount of people who have not cared to upgrade what is now a relatively in expensive option. Those people with older tvs are probably not into blu ray or even dvds. M$ paid article?

  11. says who ? i have ps4 and have no problems with bluray. wait for it to be updated as is only first version .

  12. The PS3 coming with Blu-ray backfired big time as the retail price was way too high with slowed sales. There was only 2 formats out there (DVD and Blu-ray), so next gen consoles couldn’t go with DVD, there was only the option of Blu-ray anyway. I can’t see how it was a win for Sony, plus Panasonic are the major share holder in Blu-ray. Unless another (better) format came along, the likes of the Xbox One might’ve gone with it, but somehow, I think Microsoft would’ve opted for Blu-ray (the cheaper option). With my PS4, I can’t say I’ve noticed any difference with DVD and Blu-ray playback, but the Blu-ray drive does make an annoying noise, it sounds like it’s faulty. Compared to my PS3 (second model), the PS4 doesn’t have the same build quality and I’m guessing that’s the case with the Blu-ray drive and most of what’s inside the box.

  13. Yeah, because I’ll buy a PlayStation 4 for watching films, not for games…
    No, seriously, who cares ? xD

  14. Lame sensationalist article to get extra website hits.

    I have added this site to my block list.

  15. my biggest concern is lack of CD playback features. I know most of the people stream stuff these days.. call me old school but i do prefer CD quality over the streaming. I dont mind listen Spotify etc but to get the most audio pleasing experience I boot up CD instead. My system is hooked up to 7.2 surround speakers. Apart from 2 subs i also have Aura tactical subs built inside my recliners. So far I used PS3 as a CD player. Now having ps4 all nicely hooked up but can not play CDs. Honestly, i find this fact pretty amazing. Why on Earth they didnt include such a basic feature as a CD playback?! Apart from gaming, my PS3 was also used as a hub where i stored part of my CD library. It is just very convenient to play games and listen music during the gameplay.
    So yes, i really hope this will get fixed rather sooner than later.
    I do appreciate “this is for gamers” and all that but come on SONY, get your act together and add CD playback, will ya?!

  16. Fantastic review again David the most in depth and technicaly correct I have seen.
    Lets hope we get a fix for these issues soon.

  17. No pics or video? How about a drawing? Are we just supposed to take your word for it?

  18. Just a quick reminder,there is an excellent forum here for more real time discussion on this and loads of other AV related subjects.

  19. Hey guys! One line of one pixel is off! PS4 WORSE AS A BLURAY PLAYER CONFIRMED! TROLOLOLOLLOOLOLOOOL what a crappy “article” and “test”. This garbage is nothing but clickbait, that’s all it is.

  20. I used to like PS4

    This sucks, no wonder the PS4 is so cheap. It doesn’t even play 3D Blu-rays? LOL, Sony wtf.

  21. Disappointing, but not the end of the world. Let’s not forget the features that are missing or under-performing are all software based. Software can be updated later. Sony’s priority right now is to get the console into living the room in order to grab market share from Microsoft so they can sell the games. PS4 right now is just a skeleton framework of the basic software to get it working with a game focussed priority.

    I fully expect Sony to roll out various updates on a regular basic going forward that add and improve the various features. Sony are in a better position in this respect than Microsoft because many of the serious XB1 issues are hardware based and cast in stone for the rest of the console lifespan. PS4 can update PAL performance and add film mode detection.

    Microsoft are not so lucky with issue due to lack of power. Yes they can update the software to output TV content at a 50hz refresh rate to remove the judder, but it’s not ideal because the games will still have to switch back to 60hz or they suffer judder. The whole point of the XB1 is that it integrates all multimedia through a common Kinect controlled interface with a simultaneous picture in picture delivery, switching refresh rate cannot be done because the user interface has to run 60hz to show games in a window, but a TV channel in an interface window will have to run 60hz with the judder. Unless you live in the US, the XB1 is a flawed multimedia design that falls fouls of the PAL system.

    Conclusion, PS4 can be updated as time goes on, adding to its value.

  22. Important note, this article is comparing the performance of a progressive updatable device, such as PS4, with static standalone devices. Standalone devices have to get it right first time because they don’t have a hard drive to store updates.

    Yes the PS3 launched with most features intact, but it arrived a year later than xbox, so there was plenty of time to write to software. PS4 is launching rapidly so it does not loose market share, so many features are still to be implemented. Let’s not panic over a snapshot in time. Like Sony claimed, PS4 is in a marathon not a sprint.

  23. Could not care less about this, the dvds and blu-rays I own play fine on my PS4, and I download rental copies of movies mainly now. The main thing is that the PS4 is primarily a games machine, and it plays games magnificently.

  24. Yes stand aliens can be updated just the same as the PS4.
    These IMHO are issues that should not have been there on release, but I hope in time will be fixed.

  25. That should read alones lol, bloody texting lol.

  26. I find it a little strange that there are a few comments deriding HDTV scientific and thorough review of the PS4.
    They are a much respected reverie site around the world.

  27. For those who think that the PS4 can do no wrong.
    It was reviewed as a BD player. At has failed demonstrably, by facts in several categories.
    It’s not bias, it’s facts. Stating that the article and tests are false/bad/rubish, even though there is the evidence is ridiculous.
    Remember that those who want to know whether the PS4 will play theyr DVD collection as well as the PS3 does will say, ok, so not yet.
    Those who have only BD will say, ok, no problem. And those who will buy it for the games will probably not read this article or will not care. There’s no tragedy or hidden intent here. All is good in PS4 world still.

  28. Rubbish. My PS4 works perfectly fine when playing DVDs/Blu-rays. No problems whatsoever.

  29. The article states the facts correctly. The website is right to point out the multimedia flaws so people don’t buy a product that does not deliver what they expect. If you are buying a PS4 to get what the PS3 offers, don’t buy it. You will be disappointed.

    It’s a little unfair to review a games console as a BD player when Sony have clearly stated that PS4 is first and foremost a games focussed machine this time around. That focus could change over time and I believe it will, but for now, it is what it is. It is not wrong for being what it is. Sony have never claimed it to have features it does not have. Certain assumptions are being made based on PS3. That is wrong and needs to be pointed out.

    The article should stress what it does not do and then state the consoles true purpose. Not treat it as a flaw. Sony could have gimped the gaming and made the multimedia stronger but that is not what gamers want. We have the PS3 for multimedia.

  30. “It’s a strange decision on Sony’s part, because when first launched, the PS3 system simply output 1080i content as 1080i (natively), meaning that the other components in the user’s AV system (AV receiver or TV) would do the deinterlacing. We’d hope this is something Sony addresses with a system update – either give us good deinterlacing with film mode detection, or just output the 1080i content as pure 1080i and let another device that has the same capabilities take care of it.”

    That is an interesting point. But I’m not sure the latter option will be possible given the strategy of removing PC (d-sub ports) from their current 4K tvs (like the Sony KD-55X9005 we recently bought) and the 4K TVs to follow.

    Despite our new TV being able to work happily with a 1080i output from PS4 when I checked it. Page 4 of the TV’s I-Manual PC section, states that the TV can not process interlaced signals; which is either a mistake in the I-manual or info carried over from a W9 or HX8 TV (that retained D-sub PC port) or is a reduction in the number of signals Sony intend to let support in their new TVs.

    I was very surprised by the lacklustre Blu-ray playback on the PS4 at UK launch. Visual inspection alone, told me my Ps3 imagine was far superior. So last week, when we received the 4K remastered(superbit) blu-rays from Sony (as part of the TV offer), I wasn’t in the least surprised that the TV’s own interface reports the 4k remastered discs were outputting at 12bit per component (36bit deep color 1080p24) via the PS3 and at a basic 8bit per component(24bit deep colour disabled 1080p24) via the Ps4.

  31. This only seems to cover video, what about Blu-Ray HD audio features? For the video stuff, you say theres no native path for 1080i content on blu-ray- is that limited to blu-ray or is that for all video content (e.g. video files stored locally or on USB)

  32. So how does it stack up with the 1.60 firmware? They claim “improved DVD picture quality” but that’s about as detailed as you’ll ever get out of Sony.

  33. My entertainment cabinet is a bit over packed as well. Retiring the PS3 is not happening any time soon no 3d playback and also no DNLA I can’t even have the PS4 use my HDHomerun Prime:-(

    It’s now been going on a few months since release there really is no reason any issues listed have not been fixed yet.
    I picked PS4 over the XBOne because the PS3 won me over and I believe it’s going to be the best console this generation possibly the most owned out of the 3.

    Sony has to get on the ball if they want to keep the players happy. We don’t only play games we watch Bluray movies as well SONY!