Panasonic TX-P42G20 Review

The Panasonic TX-P42G20 is the first of many new exciting HDTVs from various manufacturers to hit our review desk in 2010. On paper, the Panasonic TX-P42G20 offers quite a number of extra features — ranging from integrated Freeview HD tuner and USB-PVR functionality to THX certification and ISFccc controls — over last year’s Viera G10 series, but do these translate into a step up in real-world performance? There’s only one way to find out…

Note: The specific model we tested was the Panasonic TX-P42G20B (which denotes the 3-pin-plug British version), but the terms TX-P42G20, TXP42G20 and TX-P42G20B will be used interchangeably throughout this review to refer to the same plasma HDTV.

Design

From afar, the TX-P42G20 looks just like any regular Panasonic plasma television, with its glossy black bezel and a matching swivelling pedestal stand (which is packaged separately inside the shipping box and therefore requires assembly). Upon closer inspection however there are a number of practical improvements.

Panasonic TX-P42G20

Effectively measuring only about 5cm in depth and 20kg in weight (without stand), the Panasonic TX-P42G20 is slimmer and lighter than the outgoing G10 series. Under external light its “black” bezel takes on a navy hue, and the gradiated accent along the bottom border becomes more obvious. But perhaps more importantly, we observed slightly less on-screen glare and reflections compared to last year’s G10 and V10 plasmas due to implementation of an improved anti-reflective filter. Although this can make the G20 plasma screen look a little grey when switched off, the good news is that its contrast performance is largely preserved instead of washed out during daytime.

Also, by modifying the panel glass design, Panasonic have eliminated the “double image” phenomenon (multi-layered plasma glass causing “ghost image” — e.g. white text on black background — to be repeated behind the original image when viewed up-close and off-axis) on the TX-P42G20 plasma HDTV.

A quick look around the back of the Panasonic TX-P42G20 revealed no cooling fans nor recessed handgrips, and generally solid build quality.

Connections

The Panasonic TX-P42G20 has 4 HDMI inputs. Only the “HDMI2” port has met HDMI 1.4 specification by including an audio return channel (ARC).

Rear connections on Panasonic TX-P42G20
Rear: 3 x HDMI, VGA, component, 2 x Scarts, aerial, Freesat, ethernet & audio outs
Side connections on Panasonic TX-P42G20
Side: 2 x USB, CI slot, SD card, HDMI, headphone out, composite & control buttons

Operation

Just like those found on previous Panasonic HDTVs we’ve reviewed, the user menu on the Panasonic TX-P42G20 features large legible fonts, a clear interface, and highly responsive navigation. There are a couple of small drawbacks though: there’s no numerical indicator for the controls when making adjustments; and there’s no warning message asking you to confirm your action when you click on the [Reset To Default] option, making it extremely easy to accidentally erase your saved settings to factory configuration.

[Picture] menu [Picture] menu page 2
[Picture] menu
[Sound] menu [Setup] menu
[Sound] menu [Setup] menu

Depending on the input, there are up to 6 global picture presets available: “Dynamic“, “Normal“, “Cinema“, “THX“, “Game” and “Photo“. Engaging the [Advance(isfccc)] option in the [Setup] menu is essential to not only unlock the white balance and gamma controls for these picture presets, but also add 2 valuable [Viewing Mode] presets — named [Professional1] and [Professional2] — to each input.

[Picture] > [Advanced Settings] submenu [Setup] > [Other Settings] submenu
[Picture] > [Advanced Settings] submenu [Setup] > [Other Settings] submenu

The aforementioned white balance and gamma controls are housed in the [Picture] > [Advanced Settings] submenu. Under the [Setup] > [Other Settings] submenu, you can find more picture adjustment options like [Intelligent Frame Creation] and [Resolution Enhancer]. The latter is basically an edge enhancement control for SD images.

[Professional] viewing mode [Professional] viewing mode page 2
[Picture] > [Advanced Settings] submenu

Unlike the other global picture presets, the settings for the two [Professional] modes can be saved independently per input, and also mapped to any other input via the [Copy Adjustment] option. Furthermore, clicking on [Advanced Settings] in both [Professional] modes would open the door to advanced picture calibration options such as white balance, gamma and a colour management system:

[Professional] mode [Advanced Settings] submenu [Colour Management] submenu
[Professional] mode > [Advanced Settings] [Colour Management] submenu

These user-accessible calibration controls have been conspicuously omitted from the UK versions of Panasonic flat-screen televisions for as far as we can remember, so a big thumbs up to Panasonic for finally introducing them on the TX-P42G20… AV enthusiasts who wish to adhere to motion picture standards will definitely be pleased.

Functionalities

This section will be updated as and when we get around to testing the [Viera Cast], DLNA, Wifi and USB-PVR functionalities on the Panasonic TX-P42G20.

Calibration

Greyscale

Out of the box, naturally the [THX] picture preset yielded the greyscale closest to D65 industry standard on the Panasonic TX-P42G20 plasma TV:

Pre-calibration CCT
Pre-calibration CCT in [THX] mode
Pre-calibration RGB Tracking
Pre-calibration RGB tracking and delta errors (dEs)

By adjusting the RGB gain and cutoff controls in the [Advanced Settings] submenu (which is made available by engaging the “Advance(isfccc)” option in the [Setup] menu), we calibrated the Panasonic TX-P42G20’s greyscale in [THX] mode even closer to D65, and reduced delta errors (dEs) to below 4 from 30% stimulus onwards:

Post-calibration CCT in [THX] mode
Post-calibration CCT in [THX] mode
Post-calibration RGB Tracking in [THX] mode
Post-calibration RGB tracking and dEs in [THX] mode

Unfortunately the resultant overall gamma was nearer to 1.9 than the ideal 2.2 (the gamma curve also adopted an S-shape at the top-end), which meant that pictures would appear slightly overbright and washed out due to a drop in image contrast. To add insult to injury, for some unknown reason the [Gamma] control had no effect in [THX] mode on our Panasonic TX-P42G20 review unit, hence preventing us from bringing gamma closer to 2.2.

Gamma curve in [THX] mode Gamma tracking in [THX] mode
Gamma curve in [THX] mode Corresponding gamma tracking

Back to the drawing board then. Knowing that the [Professional] modes offer the most comprehensive set of picture adjustment controls on the Panasonic TX-P42G20 HDTV, we recalibrated from scratch in “Professional1” [Viewing Mode]. Here’s the result:

Post-calibration CCT in [Professional] mode
Post-calibration CCT in [Professional] mode
Post-calibration RGB Tracking in [Professional] mode
Post-calibration RGB tracking and dEs in [Professional] mode

With lower delta errors (dEs) across the luminance range, calibrated greyscale in [Professional] mode was even better than what we managed to achieve in [THX] mode. The functioning [Gamma] control in [Professional] mode also allowed us to obtain an excellent overall gamma of 2.21 on the Panasonic TX-P42G20 plasma TV.

Colour

Even prior to calibration, the [THX] and [Professional] modes on the Panasonic TX-P42G20 exhibited accurate primary and secondary colours when charted on a CIE diagram with reference to HD Rec. 709 specification. Switching to any other [Viewing Mode] resulted in an expanded colour gamut with oversaturated green and red primary colour points.

CIE diagram in [THX] mode CIE diagram in [Cinema] mode
CIE in [THX] mode CIE in [Cinema] mode

Activating [Vivid Colour] in the [Picture] menu brought about a small amount of red push and a mild change in cyan hue, so we left it turned off (the option is not available in the [THX] and [Professional] modes anyway).

The colour management system (CMS) hidden in the [Professional] modes on the Panasonic TX-P42G20 works quite well, but suffers from the following limitations:

  • It is effectively a 2D CMS (i.e. it allows you to adjust hue and saturation but not brightness); and
  • You can only adjust the primary colours (red, green, blue) but not the secondaries (yellow, cyan, magenta).

Here’s what we found: when we used the CMS to map the RGB coordinates exactly to Rec.709 specification, a secondary colour would be “dragged” away from its original correct position, or the colour decoding would be off (however slight). In the end we simply left the CMS untouched, as the eventual colour points and colour decoding were accurate enough after calibrating greyscale to D65 in “Professional1” [Viewing Mode]:

Post-calibration CIE chart in [Professional] mode
Post-calibration CIE chart with reference to HD Rec.709

Benchmark Test Results

Dead pixels None
Screen uniformity Perfect
Overscanning on HDMI 0% with [16:9 Overscan] set to “Off
Blacker than black Passed
Calibrated black level 0.02 cd/m2
Black level retention Stable in [Cinema], [THX] & [Professional] modes
Primary chromaticity Excellent in [THX] & [Professional] modes
Scaling Above average
Video mode deinterlacing Very effective jaggies reduction
Film mode deinterlacing Failed 3:2/ 2:2 cadences in all resolutions
Viewing angle Excellent (> 150°)
Motion resolution [Intelligent Frame Creation] “On“: 1080; “Off“: 900
Digital noise reduction Less PWM noise than Pioneer Kuros
Sharpness Defeatable edge enhancement
Image retention Virtually none
Posterization Mild, though worse with poor source
Phosphor trails Yes; severity depends on individual susceptibility
1080p/24 capability (PS3) Accepts 1080p/24 video signal; no telecine judder
Input lag 0ms-16ms slower than our resident Samsung F96

Power Consumption

Default [Normal] mode 133 watts*
Calibrated [Professional] mode 172 watts
Standby 1 watt

* The default factory settings in “Normal” [Viewing Mode] was unusually dim: luminance output measured only 48 cd/m2 on a 100% stimulus windowed pattern, which is the reason why the power consumption of our Panasonic TX-P42G20 test sample was lower out-of-the-box than that after calibration.

Picture Performance

Black Level

Idling luminance (and calibrated black level) was measured to be 0.02 cd/m2 on the Panasonic TX-P42G20 HDTV, although whether or not this figure can be maintained over time remains uncertain (see boxed explanation). When powered on from standby, or when a DVD/ Blu-ray disc is being loaded, the plasma television would display a lighter black level of 0.05 cd/m2 for about 1 second before settling at its idling luminance.

Our Panasonic TX-P42G20 sample did not exhibit any black level fluctuation in its [Cinema], [THX] and [Professional] viewing modes.

A number of USA owners of Panasonic’s 2009 plasma models have reported a sudden rise in black level on their plasma TVs after 1000 to 1500 hours of use. In an email response to CNet USA’s queries, Panasonic USA confirmed that the black level on their 2009 plasmas can brighten over time as a result of automatic internal voltage adjustments which kick in at set intervals to maintain optimal picture performance throughout the life of the TVs.

Panasonic USA went on to state that the newest (2010) Viera plasmas will incorporate an improved algorithm to apply the voltage adjustments in smaller increments so that any change in black level over time is going to be more subtle.

Should you be concerned when buying a 2010 Panasonic plasma television? Our opinion is “no” for the following reasons:

  • While there exists a handful of subjective anecdotal reports, at this time of writing there is no concrete evidence showing that European and British sets are similarly affected by this loss in black-level performance; and
  • Measurements on a couple of American 2009 samples suggest a threefold rise in black level after 1500 hours of use. Assuming that the black level on the Panasonic TX-P42G20 will increase by the same factor, it’s still going to be a respectable 0.06 cd/m2 which is generally adequate to produce deep blacks.

Disclaimer: This information has been included in this review for completeness… we hope that it will not be taken out of context, or blown out of proportion.

Motion Resolution

Using Chapter 31 of the “FPD Benchmark Software For Professional“ as our reference test pattern, the Panasonic TX-P42G20 achieved a motion resolution of 900 with [Intelligent Frame Creation] disabled. Engaging [IFC] would boost motion resolution to 1080 (the maximum quantifiable limit in this particular test pattern).

Standard Definition

The Panasonic TX-P42G20’s handling of standard-def signal — especially 576i — is much improved compared to last year’s G10 and, for that matter, V10 plasma series.

The main area of improvement is in the quality of scaling/ upconversion. Whereas in the past SD material can look soft and/or blurry on previous Panasonic plasmas, the TX-P42G20 resolved every line of the DVD format (both PAL and NTSC), capturing sufficiently sharp detail (either off-air or from DVDs) without any sign of excessive ringing. Engaging [Resolution Enhancer] in the [Setup] menu would inject some edge enhancement to make standard-definition content look even sharper, but because we started witnessing some unnatural halos and stairstepping (however slight) around high-contrast moving edges, we left it off.

Just like the G10 and V10 series, the Panasonic TX-P42G20 HDTV smoothened jaggies effectively for video-based material, but failed to detect and process 3:2 and 2:2 cadences for film-based content. This deficiency in film-mode deinterlacing means that discerning viewers might notice some deinterlacing artefacts such as moire and line twitter in 24p movies and American dramas.

On the whole however, SD programmes — as long as the source bit-rate was up to par — were a joy to watch on the Panasonic TX-P42G20 thanks to its inky blacks, excellent contrast, accurate colours and decent upscaling.

High Definition

The Panasonic TX-P42G20 plasma is the first flat-screen HDTV we’ve tested that boasts an integrated Freeview HD tuner, though this is expected to become a commonplace feature on almost every new HDTV launched in 2010. If you’re fortunate enough to live in an area with Freeview HD reception (at this time of writing only 2 transmitters are sending out Freeview HD broadcasts: Crystal Palace in London, and Winter Hill in the North West), you can hook the Panasonic TX-P42G20 up directly to your TV aerial to watch a limited number of HD channels without needing to install a satellite dish or pay any subscription.

ITV HD on Freeview HD

Currently the only available HD channels on Freeview HD are BBC HD and ITV HD, but Channel 4 HD and Five HD are scheduled to be added sometime later in 2010. On Freeview HD, ITV HD is broadcast as a separate channel (mostly an upscaled simulcast of ITV1 with the occasional native high-def programmes thrown in), but sometimes you may get the message “This programme is unavailable on ITV HD” when there’s no content. This is different from the arrangement on Freesat (which the Panasonic TX-P42G20 can also receive through its onboard Freesat tuner) where ITV HD is offered as a red-button service.

In terms of picture quality, black-level reproduction and contrast performance were predictably top-notch on the Panasonic TX-P42G20. While subjectively only a hair deeper than those on last year’s Viera G10 plasma series, the inky blacks served as an ideal platform for the incredibly lush colours of HD content to shine with a stunning degree of authenticity that’s impossible to achieve without D65 greyscale or accurate chromaticities.

FA Cup football on ITV HD

Even without [Intelligent Frame Creation] engaged, motion clarity on the Panasonic TX-P42G20 plasma TV was more than acceptable when we watched some live FA Cup football action on ITV HD. Activating [Intelligent Frame Creation] did bring about some subjective improvement in motion resolution, but the frame interpolation also caused the ball to “shimmer” when flying past the crowd (though this was nowhere near as conspicuous or offensive as the notorious “triple-ball” tearing artefact witnessed on older Samsung flat screen HDTVs).

1080p/24 video signals were handled properly without any evidence of telecine judder. Engaging [24p Smooth Film] — this option appears in the [Setup] > [Other Settings] submenu in place of [Intelligent Frame Creation] when the TV senses a 24p signal — would introduce a video-like effect to film-based material.

HD Console Gaming

Out of 10 consecutive runs, the Panasonic TX-P42G20’s input lag was measured to be on par with our resident Samsung F96 LED-based LCD television 4 times, and 16ms slower 6 times. [Game Mode] and [Intelligent Frame Creation] did not make any difference to the input lag figures.

Note: Our resident Samsung LE52F96BD with [Game Mode] engaged has about 30ms of latent input lag vs a CRT.

For us, reflex-dependent video games like Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 played fluidly on the Panasonic TX-P42G20, which together with punchy contrast and vibrant colours amounted to a truly absorbing gaming experience. However, whether or not your gaming performance is going to be affected by this amount of input lag depends on your own individual sensitivity, and the reflexes demanded by the particular game.

We witnessed virtually no image retention on the Panasonic TX-P42G20 plasma television, but there’s no harm in taking the appropriate precautions and avoiding lengthy non-stop gaming sessions (at least for the first 200 hours) to prevent permanent screenburn.

On our review sample we did not notice any green/ yellow flashes (also known as phosphor trails, plasma rainbows, green fringe, phosphor lag, etc.) on fast-moving, high-contrast edges. However, because individual susceptibility (i.e. how sensitive your eyes are to the temporal fluctuations of plasma cells) plays a major part in determining whether you see these phosphor trails or not, you should trust your own viewing experience rather than what we say in this regard. If you have seen them before on other plasmas, it is very likely that you will see them too on the Panasonic TX-P42G20 given that the underlying plasma technology remains unchanged.

A Word On Flicker

Several readers have remarked that they see a flickering effect — think CRT monitors with low refresh rates — on Panasonic NeoPDP plasma TVs. For the record, the only times we have noticed flicker on the Panasonic G10/V10/G20 plasmas were from the corner of our eyes when our gaze was focused on our calibration laptop screen, AND only if the plasmas were displaying bright (mostly white) content. Otherwise, we have not witnessed any flicker in real-life viewing.

That said, because the ability to detect flicker varies from one individual to another, it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that some unfortunate viewers with high flicker sensitivity may see flicker on NeoPDP plasmas all the time (just like how some people can still complain of flicker on a CRT monitor refreshed at 85Hz). If you have been troubled by flicker on the G10/V10 plasmas, then the Panasonic TX-P42G20 won’t be suitable for you either.

Audio Performance

Due to its slimmer chassis, the Panasonic TX-P42G20 sounded flimsier that last year’s G10. The down-firing orientation of the hidden speakers significantly dented audio resolution and stereo imaging, but at least the volume could go pretty loud with reasonably clear dialogue for run-of-the-mill viewing.

Background Noise

Our review unit emitted a soft buzz from the front of the screen. Like most plasma televisions, the brighter the on-screen content, the louder the buzz, but we were never really bothered by the plasma buzz on the Panasonic G20 at normal TV volume and sitting distance.

Conclusion

It seems to us that the best bits of Pioneer Kuro technology acquired by Panasonic have been reserved for higher-end models such as the forthcoming V20 and VT25 series, because as far as black-level performance on the Panasonic TX-P42G20 is concerned, any improvement over last year’s G10 series can only be described as marginal. In other words, whilst inky its blacks still cannot match those seen and measured on the legendary 9G Pioneer Kuros.

Nevertheless, the Panasonic TX-P42G20 represents a clear step up from its predecessor, as it successfully addresses a few deficiencies we pointed out on the G10:

  • White balance and gamma controls are now available in the user menu, allowing us to calibrate the plasma panel in line with motion picture industry standards;
  • The [THX] and [Professional] modes can effortlessly deliver accurate colours without red push; and
  • The quality of SD scaling/ upconversion has improved visibly, so terrestrial SD broadcasts will look sharper and more detailed on the G20 compared to the G10.

An integrated Freeview HD tuner, commendable motion clarity, wide viewing angles, and reduced power consumption (cf. previous 1080p plasmas) complete this terrific package. Although it’s early days (after all we haven’t examined any 2010 offerings from other TV manufacturers), the Panasonic TX-P42G20 appears to be the HDTV to beat in 2010 when it comes to overall picture quality at this screen size and price point.

Highly Recommended

136 comments

  1. Good review thanks. This bodes well for the rest of Panasonic’s 2010 line up.

  2. excellent review

  3. I hope you aren’t just going to measure the black level once and leave the review as it is. Please let the G20 get some serious hours on it and measure the black levels as the panel ages. I’d like to see where it’s at after 500, 1000, 3000 hours etc. so that we as consumers can know where the black level will actually be at after using the set instead of how it will look only after it’s been on for a week.

  4. WOW!
    Black level as good as 8th generation of Pio! And stepeped drop after ligther level like the 9th Kuro’s. Panasonic has introduced Kuro technology indeed…
    Thank you for the job!

  5. Other review sites says that black level has not increased. I don’t understand? Also, the USB HDD recording functionality has already been tested some time ago here:
    http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1267447473

  6. I´m realy realy impresed that you with a steady hand can compare with a TV set you saw last year.

  7. Very nice review, thanks Vincent. Shame about the speakers lacking less punch from last year’s model..

    Quote:
    [On our review sample we did not notice any green/ yellow flashes (also known as phosphor trails, plasma rainbows, green fringe, phosphor lag, etc.) on fast-moving, high-contrast edges.]

    To me that sounds like they have eliminated the problem, whereas the review on the 42G10 from last year says that Vincent could see it.

  8. What about the remote? And the sound quality?

  9. Frustrated to see deinterlace problem with film-based content.

  10. Is the motion resolution result the same on all picture modes?

  11. What mode(s) was input lag measured on please (game?, normal?, thx?)

  12. Don’t worry, just reread input lag measured in “Game” mode.

  13. What input was lag tested on? If HDMI, can we get a test for the VGA port?

  14. Hello! Are IFC and 24p Smooth film available on THX mode? Does Photo viewing mode anything good to photos being displayed?
    Did not the G10 and V10 achieve 1080 lines of motion resolution without engaging IFC?
    Sorry if my english is poor but I am portuguese

  15. Thanks for this review, coming from you ppl it surely is trusted among the net.

    Please considering sharing the calibrated settings in [Professional mode] with the rest of us that want a good headstart in settings but don’t want to pay €300 for ISF calibration. TIA

  16. Waited to purchase this TV for around 4 months now and left the G10 on the shelf, but after seeing those horrible input lag measurements it seems i have made a huge mistake and should of went for the G10 which only has -10ms lag. It’s strange that game mode has the same amount of lag as the other options?

    Not good!

  17. Good review, thanX!

  18. How come the motion resolution is worse than last year’s neoPDP models : Now needing IFC before 1080 lines can be attained? More like 2009’s S10! :-o

  19. That input lag stinks! Don’t if I trust the figures though… I have actually ordered the 46″ G20, so I need to double check the measurements stated here.

    If you stumble upon another input lag test of the G20, please shout!

    I stumbled upon the first review of the Panasonic VT20 myself – those who cannot wait might find it interesting :) :
    http://hdguru.com/panasonic-tc-p50vt20-3d-hdtv-hd-guru-exclusive-first-review/1391/

  20. Allan could you post your findings also, really want this tv but have been put totally off it now and will need to act quick to grab a G10.

  21. Hi Jay, I’m in the same boat as you! I haven’t received the set yet and given the lousy input lag results of the G20, I’m considering cancelling my preorder and wait… Only problem is that I found the 46″ G20 dirt cheap…

    Anyway, if I don’t cancel my order, the G20 won’t land until April, so I still have some time to find out…

  22. hi all

    whats the difference between the TX-P42G20 and the TX-P42GW20?

    do they have the same panel and controls?

  23. @chocky909 & Paul: Thanks for your kind words.

    @Charles: If anyone can supply me with a unit on a long-term loan basis (3 to 6 months), I’ll be more than happy to perform serial black level measurements over time.

    @Denis: The TX-P42G20B is still using Panasonic’s own instead of Pioneer Kuro technology to drive its plasma cells.

    @Peter: I can only put it down to variations between units (European vs British versions) and/or testing methodology. Either way, the conclusion is that any improvement in blacks over the G10 is marginal.

    @JA: The numbers and results (derived from objective measurements) don’t lie…

    @Giddyup: Thanks for your kind words. Just to clarify, I’ve never been sensitive to plasma phosphor trails when watching real-world content, so I would say that those people who see phosphor trails on the G10 will most likely also see them on the G20.

    @Jac: Bog-standard Panasonic remote. Layout similar to that on the V10, except that the [Menu] and [Aspect] buttons have swapped places.

    @Tomos: The only thing that made a visible difference (on test patterns) to the motion resolution is [Intelligent Frame Creation].

    @Agent: According to our measurements, input lag on the VGA port isn’t any lower than HDMI.

    @Pedro: Yes, [IFC] and [24p Smooth Film] are available in [THX] mode. Sorry I haven’t tested the [Photo Viewing] mode.

    @Darren: I think too much emphasis has been placed on the motion resolution figures. At the best of times I struggle to see the difference between 900 and 1080 in real-world content when comparing side-by-side from more than 4 feet away (or whatever is a sensible viewing distance).

    @Chris: Thanks for your kind words.

    @Jay & Allan: The input lag figure is far from horrible… MW2 played fine for me. But then again, different people have different sensitivities to input lag.

    @andy: Googling around the TX-P42GW20 should be the German/Swiss equivalent of the TX-P42G20.

    Warmest regards
    Vincent

  24. Dear Vincent,

    thank you very much for your review of the G20.
    But arren’t you a little backpeddling on the input lag for games issue? I for one think it is rather shocking that the G20 performs worse than the G10 regarding input-lag!
    Wich leaves me utterly confused because I waited for the G20 because of the black level degrading issue on the G10. Now it seems this wait was in vain because for my main purpose of the TV I want, gaming, the G20 is inferior and the G10 is no option because of the mentioned black level issue!
    Could you please inform me which HDTV right now is the fastest regarding input lag / gaming?

    Best regards,

    Rene

  25. Thanks, your review are the best of the net!!!!

  26. Review the G25

  27. I am about to upgrade my tv and would appreciate some advice from you or others. As we are unable to receive satellite tv I rely on an internet download through an Xbox to receive Sky Sports. My broadband speed is 5 – 6 Kbps from F2S. Having not been able to receive Sky until recently I am grateful to be able to access in this way, but on live football the motion is very jerky . I currently have a Panasonic with 100Hz technology, which generally provides an excellent picture in most situations. As I am technologically ignorant in these matters I wondered if the 600 Hz refresh rate on the plasma tv would make any improvement to my picture as it certainly appears to be a good set. Alternatively, what else might I do to improve my picture?

  28. Thanks for the interesting review Vincent

    I was completely underwhelmed by the G15 (which I had the misfortune to own) with the oversaturated colour gamuts in all picture presets especially out in the green and red areas of the gamut making skin tone and grass colour unnatural.

    So disappointed with it I sold at loss and don’t want ot make the same mistake again.

    The review is indicating the G20 has got the colours right this time around. Please can you confim the G15 colour gamuts issues have not been repeated?

    Am I right to take from the review that THX mode is a damp squib as when the colours are right gamma is going to make PQ looked washed out?

  29. Hello, excellent test, as always.

    Please, the calibration settings in a professional mode.

    thanks

  30. Very nice and very thorough review of the TV. I am getting the 42G25(US model). I have a feeling that they are very similar. In the review you also said that it was calibrated in the Professional1 mode. If I read the review right, that seemed to give better results than the THX mode. But I looked in the user manual and that is not an option for me. It lists Vivid, Standard, THX, Game, and Custom. Could you use the “Custom” mode and get the same results? If I were planning on getting this TV, the US model, calibrated by a professional, what mode would you recommend.
    Thanks

  31. Vincent,
    Thanks for a very thorough review. However I would like to know if the G20 performs any better than the G10 under bright daylight conditions.

  32. Whoa. Wait a minute before shelling out for any Panasonic plasma.

    Black levels in Panny 2010 panels have registered a 36% black level increase in 375 hours.

    Post 7419:
    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=18388330&highlight=#post18388330

    Do yourself and your wallet a favor and stay away from Panasonic – I wish I did.

  33. Why the calibarion settings isnt posted on review? i would also want to find good settings for my 50g20, if somebody has link or any information about good settings please post.

  34. I see Panasonic has still kept the ads in the EPG even for digital Freeview/HD channels – complete with “select Ad” button – for those users that cannot wait to see ads after paying for their TV.

    Until there is a way to turn it off, there’s no way I’m buying a Panasonic TV for the benefit of selecting what Ads to see in the EPG.

    I’d rather have Samsung’s system of seeing a thumbnail of the current channel while using the EPG instead of losing 1/3 space to Ads that don’t bring any benefit whatsoever.

  35. Been looking for a good price on the tx-p42Gq15 for some time now, down to £700, but now they have this set wondering which would be better?
    Is the new set worth spending an extra £200 on??
    cheers
    Pepe

  36. Evening,

    Id be very grateful if the calibration settings were posted as well. Also why are the settings not put in every review?

    Regards…

  37. Vincent, Could you please post your calibration settings ?

    There are enough requests for them.

  38. just took delivery of the 50″ Version of the TX-P G20 on Thursday of last week after looking at Samsung and Philips models.
    Blown away by Dr Who, Top gears trek across the Andes On BBC1 HD on Freesat most of the ITV output is remastered (ITV’s words not mine) and look a little soft in comparison but King Kong remake in 1080i from ITV HD looked very good indeed 4OD HD looks good too again dependent on the content
    BLU RAY (the Dark Knight) Looks amazing, the characters seem to stand off the background giving a real feel of depth.
    SD looks a little soft in comparison (only to be expected) but certain programs like CSI in SD take on an extra quality as are older films (The Original Italian Job, & the Robe) are very watchable all in all very pleased haven’t played around with the settings too much (yet) and just waiting for a 1TB external HD to start using as a PVR

  39. @ Ibby:

    Same here.

    A friend of mine asked me to search a TV that would be good enough for him, and because this review is so positive my final decision was this TV.
    We have just ordered it, and it would be great if you would post the Calibrated settings for us all to enjoy.
    Specially because It isn’t one of the most expensive TV’s, so I think that most people who buy this TV won’t have the money to buy a professional calibration.

    Hope you can post/send me the calibrated settings, just like you did on the reviews of both of my own TV’s (Samsung A656 and Panasonic PX80).

    PS: Srry for my bad english, it isn’t my native language.

  40. So basically this is a v10 with better calibration options?

  41. Panasonic have created an almost perfect tv. It’s just a shame they have taken so long to do it. My pz800 could have been almost perfect with the same picture control this model allows.

  42. I recently purchased this model after reading this (and other) review(s) and have used it for about a week and a half now. I’m pleased with the purchase.
    However, part of me thinks I should have waited 6 months for 3DTV (I’m a partial fan of 3D, though it’s only good to users with good vision, much like surround sound is only good to those with good hearing), except there’s not much in the way of 3D yet (unless for example, you have a fair amount of money to spend on Sky in the UK for the 3D channel which is only in preview at the moment until Autumn if I’m correct).

    I decided to “break-in” the screen, and although I’ve occasionally let a permanent image remain on screen, it’s managed to show it only slightly (on a blue screen mainly) and eventually (fairly quickly) wash away with moving pictures or with switching the TV off.
    This is my first purchase of a HDTV and it looks as if the technology has advanced enough not to be so worried about permanent image retention or “burn-in”. I’ll still keep my caution though for the next 100 hours (of use) or so and see what happens after that.

    I too would like the calibration details. I know you state no numbers (which is true) and although this could present a problem to give to us online, pictures would do, or how many “clicks” of the button to the right from “zero” would be fine for me. Just a suggestion :-).

  43. I’ve had the 46G20 for 2 weeks now and have to say that the Professional picture modes are the only ones that have accurate skin tones and grass colour – possibly because of the adjustable hue controls (+5 on R, G & B makes it perfect). The only downside is that the automatic contrast system doesn’t work on the Professional modes so I have to use the Normal picture for daytime use (Cinema is also duller). THX disables IFC and 24p Smooth Film so that’s a no-no for me. Picture is not quite as razor sharp as my previous Panasonic plasma (720p) so I have Resolution Enhancer and Sharpness both on max. Another bummer is that the Tint control for NTSC DVD’s and all Blu-Rays has now gone completely, despite the manual saying it’s there. Two steps forward, six steps back…….

  44. Nice review again!
    Could you please post the calibrated settings for us?!

  45. I am very pleased with my G20 which replaced a 5 year old 37″ plasma Panny.

    Nobody would ever buy one if they saw the set up in a local Curry’s where they are trying to promote Samsung’s LED LCD. They have 3 panels on the wall, the first is a Samsung normal backlit LCD followed by a 32″ Panasonic G20, then a Samsung Led LCD. Of course the LED one looks fantastic but what have they done with the purposely poor black level settings on the Panny?

    I feel inclined to go in with my remote control and restore the proper settings – even to ‘torch’ settings – and see the reaction!

  46. Sorry – meant 42″

  47. I want to buy a dongle and connect my P42G20B to the internet via a wifi, but I don’t know what standard wifi I need – anybody out there know please ?

    Also, I’m considering an alternative to wifi — ethernet via the mains. Has anybody any experience of these plugs please ?

    Thanks

    Jeffers

  48. Note the Dixons site is no longer honouring the SAVE3 on the G20

  49. For those wanting some calibration settings, I have seen them on flatpanelshd if anyone is wanting a quick fix. I know they they might not be the same as the guys testing here but it may help.

  50. two points i would like to ask about is the cam(common interface) on the TX-P42G20B able to be used for top-up tv content and will you be able to just stick a smart card in or will you need additional bits and will the epg be ok for top-up-tv point two will there be a led -lcd versions of the same spec i.e hdtv twin tuners both hd sat and terristal as want to upgrade from old crt and will it be in silver as well as black

  51. Where are the calibration settings??? If this TV is one of the best out there… please post them!!!

  52. Can you please let me know what are the optimum picture settings for this TV, I have got the 50″ equivalent one (TXP50G20B) and the wife isn’t too happy.

    Thanks in advance.

  53. Hi, this TV have 24p/96hz mode?

    Thanks.

  54. Hi Vincent,
    Is there possibility to get your settings for “Professional1” mode. I mean settings you used to calibrate 42G20 in your test.
    Thanks

  55. Input lag results are highly disappointing. Too bad I already ordered the TV. I assumed that the lag would not be any worse than the G10… guess I learned my lesson

  56. Thanks for the review, helped in my decision to buy one. In relation to DLNA, does it also stream music to your AV Amp etc. Reason for asking is that the manual only refers to Photos and Videos, but I would assume it could also stream music via a DLNA server for all media types. Is anyone able to confirm.

  57. What is the irish version of TX-P42G20?Or it`s the same?Could it be TX-P42S20L?

  58. I also would appreciate it if you shared the calibration settings in professional mode (used in test).

    Thank you very much!

  59. Same request from me, please!

  60. Please send calibration settings in pro mode

  61. I am from China, recently I buyed an 42G20, unfortunately the THX mode is cutted off, but there are two professional mode ( prof1 & prof2), I want to know how can i cabibrated the TV in prof1 or prof2 mode to acquire the same or near quality of THX mode ?any suggested settings?

  62. Input lag test on this tv must be very unaccurate!
    Intelligent Frame Creation increases lag from 16-20 ms to 30-40 ms, that’s why it switched off (greyed out) in game mode.
    All 2010 Panasonic Plasmas have 10-20 ms of lag in game mode.
    You should use the same technic when measuring input lag, otherwise you’ll end up with false results!!!

  63. Two questions/if I use the dongle can I access internet and media from computer or do i have to use cross over ethernet cable/also can I ATCH BBCI player on this tv

  64. Hi Vincent

    Thanks for the review.
    I have this tv and would like you to post the calibration settings you used, please.

  65. Hi!

    Thank you for the nice review.

    I’m from germany and i wanna buy a plasma tv, but i can’t decide, if it will be the s20 or the g20. Is the higher price of the g20 justified? I don’t need all of the multimedia features of the g20 like viera cast. Is the picture quality of the g20 much better than the s20 in relation to the price?
    I need some help…

    Thanks.
    Nicolas

  66. I also would appreciate it if you shared the calibration settings in professional mode
    Thanks!

  67. OK, am i going crazy? when i turn on the tv, on a blank input, it goes through the 3 distinct brightness levels (well not really 3, more like 2 and a half). after a couple of seconds it kicks back up 2 full brightness levels. I have CATS and all the other crap turned off. I noticed the increased black level before, but it never did this. This only started after they told me to do a hard reset on the set.

  68. Jonathon Cameroon

    Like Nicholas is asking…… is there a big enough difference from the S20 and the G20 concerning picture quality?

    (Not interested in the HD freesat or freeview or features, just picture.) :D

  69. This is a great TV – A must for all AV enthusiasts

  70. Nearly purchased this TV today but decided to wait and see what the 3D model is like. Looking at the input lag are you saying its 46ms some times, meaning its worse than the Samsung LE40C750 and Sony KDL40EX703??? or have I read this wrong? Thanks

  71. Sent this one back after a couple of days of testing. The main reason was that skin tones were not always – if not mostly – unnatural looking. And I noticed that the TV was able to clearly exhibit colour differences between different channels and motion pictures on DVD. For example: “The Proposal” (the entire movie) with Sandra Bullock looks yellowish on the G20. Not so much on our Sony Trinitron CRT (12 years old). Basically our old Sony CRT is less sharp and smaller, but it always shows natural skin tones.
    What I want to know are 2 things:
    – I am not a professional TV tester like you guys. But: could I have gotten more natural colours if I had entered the professional CMS stuff? So much more that all different sources look natural as they do on my Sony CRT?
    – Is a current Plasma like the G20 more capable of showing colour differences between different source materials than an old CRT to a degree I described?

    Thanks!

    Selwin

  72. Still no callibration settings after months of requests? Was the set really tested/callibrated/reviewed or has it just been taken from a third party? The lack of information or response to the settings request makes me a little suspicious.

  73. I’ve been watching this review site for a while too and believe this may be a false/fake review. No information still at this time. Disappointing.

  74. It’s not a false review, but calibration settings (especially on a Plasma) can’t just be copied from TV to TV because of the physical tolerances of the panels.

    The G20 has a THX Mode which is designed to be relatively accurate to industry standards. Use this mode, and turn the Sharpness down to 0 for HD material. Also be sure that Intelligent Frame Creation/24p Smooth Film are shut off in the TV’s Setup menu. That’ll get as accurate video as possible without paying for a meter or ISF calibration service.

  75. I have been buying Panasonic Models by choice for many years – TVs, Camcorders, and HDD/DVD Recorders. Of my 3 TVs currently owned (all Panasonic) only the latest has Ads featuring on the EPG Programme. As much i I wish to upgrade to the P42G20B I am loath to, with it advertisment burdened EPG. It reduces the size of the programme information panel – seems to have a built in time lag when initially pressing the remote button, and invades my privacy. Lets hope this disease doesn’t spread to other makers’ equipment.

  76. I’m with you on that, David – what makes it even worse is that the ads are provided by Radio Times, which is owned by … BBC. I thought they were against commercial forms of advertising?

  77. Could we please have the settings for pro1 mode as thx mode gamma profile is way to bright. Best compromise I have found is pro1, contrast +3, brightness +1, colour default, sharpness min, all enhancements off and default whitebalance, gamma 2.4

    Please release the settings used for review sample, donations will follow. Many thanks please don’t let this thread die.

  78. Leave the Pro1 mode at its defaults. If you find the gamma profile too bright, change it to 2.4.

    The review set will be back with Panasonic now, so it will be too late for copying exact settings, but there’s no need in this case. Just select Professional1, turn the Sharpness down, make sure 16:9 Overscan is off, set Gamma according to your viewing environment if you find it too bright/dark.

  79. Thanks David for your quick response. I have found that gamma has to be changed to 2.4 in Pro mode like you say as it doesn’t give you the desired 2.2 in thx mode, it’s more like 1.9! Which is way too bright and washes out the image depth. I had to re-adjust my brightness to +1 using DVE blu ray to achieve correct black point. I was hoping to get the white balance set correctly so the set will have correct greyscale but i guess i will have to opt for a proper calibration by an expert. Thanks for your advice anyway. Here are my settings for anyone who wishes to try them, give feedback etc.

    Mode: Pro1

    Contrast: +3 (from middle)
    Brightness: +1
    Colour: Default
    Sharpness: Minimum

    All enhancements: Off

    White balance and colour management default.

    Gamma 2.4

    In my opinion this is basically thx mode with a better gamma profile for increased image depth.

  80. Can I just add my name to the clamour demanding further info on the calibration settings? Thanks.

  81. So, I was purchasing a one(P42G20), but I’m going back with the TV to the market, after 2days… So, the picture was really clear and smoothless, I’ve analog TV on cable and IP TV too, in analog channels got really good movement (no motion blur!), the Viera Cast works good in the two days frozen 1 time… But, the noise are really high of the electronic stuff(from DC? anyway) in brighter screen at volume level20 was also trought out that electrical noise…
    Overall: 10/10 great picture(never seen like that,I’ve a LED Tv by Samsung for compare) , but the others (sound, connectors/1pc hdmi1.4 :S, no DVI-D only D-Sub /like 90’s/, features/WO Viera Cast/, material /dustmagnet/ etcetc.. but the noise after 1/2Hr BAAAD, that’s why I don’t like, I don’t wanna own…

  82. I have been living with a Sony Black Screen Trinitron for some (10)years and have been putting off going the ‘flat screen’ route until such time as the picture quality had improved to at least not have the ‘artifacts’ that the digital technology seems to have imposed on itself – crt’s by there very nature do not have to overcome the additional problems of converting a digital signal to a viewable image… I’ve been keeping my eye on the Panasonic range now for a couple of years, and finally decided to bite the bullet, (or so I thought). I was considering the TX-P42S20 which I have seen alongside the G20. I am now wondering if it makes sense to pay the extra for the G20, as although the S20 has freeviewHD, this will not be available until Sept 2011. The G20 has the freesatHD, as well as the THX certified screen. I have no other HD source at this time, although I will be using a Panasonic DMR-EX88EB which upscales to HD for watching DVD films, (which is a lot!), and is also used for std freeview.

    I have a couple or three questions;-

    1/ Is the S20 with an external freesat box as good as the G20 option, bearing in mind the S20 does not have a THX certified screen and doesn’t have the ‘user’ menu adjustments (white balance / gamma…) of the G20? (internet connectivity is not an issue as I’m on a slow 0.5meg connection…

    2/ There are so many different opinions on size and viewing distance, that I may even go to the 46″; my viewing distance is about 9 to 10 feet. Any advice on size/distance?

    3/ I’m also hearing about ‘running in’ for 200hours before the panel ‘settles down’; would it make sense to try and buy the demo unit on show rather than a ‘fresh’ one out of the box? Does it really take this long before you can decide that the picture is really any good or not?

    I’ve also been hearing about ‘buzzing’, dead pixels (that are deemed ‘acceptable’!?!), and various ‘settling’ effects, like changing brightness levels and colour settings. If I spend this sort of money on a new tv I would expect it to work properly, and not be subject to faults being ‘of an acceptable level’. Even in the ‘glowing reviews’ for the S20 / G20, the benchmark test results comments contain such things as ‘largely stable with occasional subtle “floating blacks”‘ (so its not stable then…), and for image retention; ‘virtually none’, posterization as ‘mild, though worse with poor source’ (so that’s ‘mild’ at best!?!), and phosphor trails ‘yes, depending on individual susceptibility’…?

    So I’m left wondering, are you being overly critical, or is this as ‘good as it gets’ for this sort of money (or any money for that matter), and that the only reason someone buys a flat screen is for the picture size (and being able to say they have the new latest thing) and not the quality of the image? Am I going to be disappointed in either of these sets compared to the Sony crt? (which is still excellent, if not the ‘latest technology’)

    From some of the forums that are linked to on this review, (which I feel I’ve wasted all afternoon reading!), there appears to be a lot of issues, but it does start to sound that they are watching the technological aspect of the TV rather than watching the content, be it film / DVD / HD broadcasts. This seems familiar to the HI FI buffs who listen to their stereo ‘system’ instead of enjoying the music it plays! Once you get to a certain point, the technology should be invisible to the enjoyment of the content. Is this yet true of these plasma screens, or am I going to be disappointed after moving from the humble (invisible) crt? – I watched the rugby last night, and there were no ‘judders’ or movement affects on my crt, with crisp clear colours, etc, and I enjoyed the game, unlike the football showing on the plasma in the showroom which had several ‘movement’ effects, particularly noticeable in the seats around the arena on panning shots… Is this the sort of problem that we now have to live with if we want to keep up with modern technology? I really hope not…

    I do believe that you can wait forever to get the latest technology, but at some point you have to stick a stake in the ground, or just otherwise ignore it! What I don’t want to do is buy something that I will want to replace in the next year or so! (or at least five years – I’ve had the Sony for ten years, and I have no real reason to replace it other than wanting a larger screen…)

    So now I am totally confused as to what to do, on the one hand I’d like the larger screen size, but on the other I want to continue to get pleasure from my viewing experience without the ‘technology’ impinging on that enjoyment!

    Any advice on plasma screens and the S20/G20 would be gratefully received! (and did anyone else feel that it was a backward step in quality from watching a decent crt when they made the switch to ‘flat screen’?)

    thank you in advance… sorry for the rant, but this is a big step for me and I want to be sure! `¬)

  83. stop displaying my email!

  84. Martin:
    I would say it makes sense to go for the G20. Both the S20 and G20 can produce high quality, accurate video out of the box (S20 with “True CInema” mode and G20 with THX mode). But the G20 has a better ambient light filter on the screen.

    1. No. The G20 is better largely because of the ambient light filter.
    2. This depends on resolution. Unlike a CRT, you do not have the same amount of flicker, scanlines, interlace twitter to contend with. So you can sit closer. It shouldn’t be an issue.
    3. The demo unit has probably been abused in the store. Get a new one, treat it gently for the first 200 hours by not showing too many permanent on screen logos etc., then enjoy.

    I would say this is as good as it gets, especailly at this price. I would rather have a Panasonic G20 than a Trinitron CRT, but you might find that the artefacts shown by the G20 take time getting used to compared to CRT TV artefacts.

    Why not buy from Amazon.co.uk? They have a very generous returns policy…

  85. One other thing to add regarding PDP vs CRT:

    Thanks to the internet, we are aware of every issue with today’s TVs. I don’t have measurements of an old Trinitron CRT, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it has issues with high end Gamma tracking etc. that would simply be ignored.

  86. Wow, Thanks for the rapid response David! I feel more confident in looking at the G20 now, although I will be getting it from my local dealer, they are throwing in a 5 year warranty, and I’ve bought Panasonic cameras (still and video), as well as the ex88 from them. There may be another ‘deal’ available from the first week in December as well `¬) I’m a regular with them and they have been good to me in the past… they repaired the ex88 when it was a month outside the one year warranty because they considered that it should not have failed in the way it did (after they got Panasonic to stump up the cost! – or so I was told…)

    Yes, you are probably right, with the internet now you can get sucked into the forums, and people do tend to be overly critical these days, whereas in the old days the only info on equipment was from magazines and showrooms! We shall have to see what the G20 looks like next to the crt… I’m sure I’ll be impressed! (come December…)

    Really enjoyed the review on the S20 and G20, very impressive detail! It wasn’t until I started browsing the forums I started to have the doubts…

    Keep up the good work! I’ll let you know how I get on in a months time! And thanks again.

    `¬)
    Martin

  87. It will be different, but unless you’re repelled by a more Plasma-specific artefact (posterisation, etc) then over time I think you’ll grow to prefer the G20 for its higher resolution and lack of interlace flicker.

  88. Tx-P42V20B & TX-P42G20B.
    On most sets I have looked at so far it is possible to look at the Freeview EPG and still at least listen to, or see the channel you are currently tuned to. But with the above models I cannot. Am I doing something wrong? And can I disable the advertisements!

  89. “This section will be updated as and when we get around to testing the [Viera Cast], DLNA, Wifi and USB-PVR functionalities on the Panasonic TX-P42G20.”

    any comments anyone at all? Does it work when the set is otherwise switched off? Does it have twin record capability? etc

  90. can anyone help me i have bought a panasonic tx-p42gt20b 3d tv and i got with it a 3d dvd player panasonic dmp-bdt 100 i just bought a 3d disc put it in and up comes this has recognized that your player and/or display does not support 3d playback can anyone help please

  91. Hi David, others
    i went to RicherSound today and the salesman there gave me a very specific negative feedback about G20. He said it is only good if I have freesat.Apparently he claims that this TV is just no good(value for money) for SKy or SD compared to others. He was quite keen to suggest LG (LCD) is a far better option.
    Assuming he was trying to sell LG to me, I still have one question. Is there any truth that – G20 is only tuned for best in Freesat, that a SKY HD or SD feed will not be as good, compared to a good LCD?

  92. id the the HD Freeview tuner mpeg4 in this TV

  93. hi. thanks for the review. i have some questions:

    1) what is the diference in power consumption between 42G20 and 50G20?

    2) this tv have some kind of ‘eco mode’ to save energy?

    sorry for my english, im portuguese. xD
    continue with this excelents reviews, best site of tv reviews.

  94. Som,

    I was in the same position. I went to Richer Sounds and they tried to sell me the LG, however, for me they did not mention the tuners; instead he told me that it was a 100 hz and that it was better. Once I point out that Plasma allow for better blacks and motion controll in general he shut-up, he was new, so i don’t think he was ready for someone who knows a few things. I think Richer Sounds obviously have some sort of commission going on the LG’s. The Panasonic is slightly more set up for Freesat, but the Freeview HD on it is still better than the majority of TV’s out there.

  95. I’ve been worried about the input lag. In the end decided to buy the G20. I had a Panasonic TX-32LXD70 a 2006/7 LCD model – people say that these older LCD’s don’t suffer from poor input lag. Anyway “average of ten” show the G20 is quicker than the TX-32LXD70 by 3ms.

    I can’t comment precisely how much the input lag is for either TV since I don’t have a CRT – I was simply running timing programs on my dell laptop (the dell D630 being 15ms slower than the G20)

  96. Thanks Alvin
    I have now decided on P50G20B. Went to panny outlet to check V vs G series. couldn’t find much difference in naked eye for different types of feeds:SD, HD, Blu Ray.
    I am now off to JL, they have reserved one for me for 998, I think that’s the best price around with 5 yr guarantee…

  97. Dear Vincent,

    I recently read your wonderful review about the Panasonic G20 TV and it has piqued my interest. However, there is one thing that worries me a little. I want to use the TV mostly with my Media Center PC, so that means it has to handle a lot of static images. Will this cause problems regarding image retention (possibly after a while)? I’m very curious about your experience with the (prolonged) use of computer images with the G20.

    Thanks in advance for your response.

    Yours sincerely,
    Jody van der Torn

  98. Unlike many people buying a new TV I was more concerned by picture quality and sound than anything else. In these areas the G20 scores very well on picture quality (although I do notice the flicker particularly with re-freshes of dark objects on white backgrounds, and it is sometimes off-putting), but not so well on sound quality, which is obviously becoming far less important in general and is easily cured with additional speakers.

    When I bought a g20 I encountered a thermal cut-out that put the TV into standby where the stand-by light blinked five times. This could not be remedied, so that particular TV went back to the shop. The replacement is fine in that regard but I enounter a static electric shock each time I turn the TV off, which can be annoying.

    Overall, picture quality is the best thing by far and is a pretty good telly for a cinema type set-up where the rubbish speakers can be augmented.

  99. Just bought this TV a couple of days ago and I cant watch it?

    There is a paragraph in the review about flicker. I see this constantly! it is terrible.

    I have never had any problems before with TVs in this way. It has got so bad it makes me ill. Previous TV was a LCD.

    The flicker is more outstanding when there is a lot of whites light colours on screen.

    Will try and take it back to shop!!

  100. Is it safe to assume that the Panasonic TXP46G20 (46? screen) would be just as good as the 42? reviewed here? I.e it would have the same spec & performance but with a bigger screen? Does the fact that the panel is bigger degrade picture quality?

    Also, do Panasonic plasma panels suffer from the so-called panel lottery issues that Samsung LCDs have for example?

  101. Yes, that’s a safe assumption.
    There is no panel lottery. If you buy a Panasonic Plasma TV, you get a Plasma panel manufactured by Panasonic, guaranteed.

  102. Thanks David!

  103. Just bought a TXP46G20B on New Year’s day. Have not fiddled with any settings but out of the box the picture is great. Will be delving deeper into the menus when I have time. I have been reading tech-speak for a while but I just wanted a good quality TV for the sport-loving, game playing, Sky-watching, movie fan layman. For less than £800 I have found it!

  104. I bought the TXP42G20 in December 2010.

    Overall I am very pleased with the TV, but wondered if anyone can shed any light on two problems I’m having with it. The TV is connected to a basic Sky + box and a Panasonic SC-BT735EB-K Blu-Ray 5.1 Home Cinema system.

    1: At high resolutions or when text boxes overlay a picture, I can hear quite a loud buzzing sound. This sound seems to fluctuate depending on the brightness of the picture.

    2: There is a significant lip-sync delay when watching the Sky+ channels through the connected cinema surround system. The delay isn’t as noticeable when watching the TV without the surround system. There appears to be NO lip-sync delay when watching the standard freeview channels on the TV.

    Can anyone provide any advice/solutions for these issues please?

    Thanks

  105. Bought the Panasonic TX-P42G20B 42-inch Widescreen Full HD 1080p 600Hz Neo Plasma TV with Freeview HD and Freesat HD just before Christmas for £579.99 and now have it set up and connected to SKY HD.

    Major problem is the sound during films or TV drama where music is played during the dialogue, tried several different settings but so far now luck…any suggestions welcome.

  106. Hi ,I would buy `the TV 50″ Panasonic VIERA TX-P50G20E but at first I would like to know if is applicable to play any fullhdvideo,fullhdmoviemovie etc. which is saved on flash usb card by connecting this card on USB input on the mentioned TV. Thanks a lot for any feedback.

  107. Hi, Went and ordered my G20 at the weekend and should get it this week. word of warning guys, everywhere i went they said that this model is now discontinued by panasonic so once there gone, there gone! i went everywhere and eventually got it from Bentalls department store with 5 year warranty. Cant wait to hook my Xbox upto it.

  108. @Som

    I am looking to purchase the G20 from Richer Sounds in Reading. Oddly, I spoke with a guy over the phone who tried to dissuade me from purchase as well!! wtf?

    He claimed quite strange things, like : “It can’t keep up with AVATAR…” and that LED TVs were superior in that respect. It was simply BIZARRE and rather vague. I will be going in tomorrow armed with my laptop and some 1080p reference material that I’m well familiar with (BBC Earth, Persepolis, The Incredibles, Star Wars, AVATAR (of course)) to see his recommendations side by side with the Panasonic.

    Thanks to trolling these forums, I’ll at least know to set the HDMI coming from my laptop to THX on the Panasonic.

    I’m either going to end up with this G20 or the LCD-based Samsung LE40C750. – I think I just need to be left alone over some time spent with each weighing their impressions on me.

    Can I live with the judder / motion errors with the Samsung, or will I be better to take the risk with rising black levels and phosphor trails on the G20? In the end, I’ll have to let my eyes work it out for me, I guess.

    Almost all of my viewing will be cinema 1080p material and I don’t play so many games……*this is the part where I realize nobody cares and I shut up now.* ;-)

  109. Hi everyone,

    I am trying to understand one thing about the ambient light filter. First of all I would assume you are talking about the CATS / Eco Mode setting which adjusts image brightness depending on the amount of light in the room.

    What I found in that respect, is that in Normal mode, this setting gives me excellent brightness during the day which I am quite pleased with. However, in Professional Modes, the same setting only marginally increases brigthness during the day leaving the overall picture too dark.

    My question is, how can I achieve the effectiveness of the option seen in Normal mode in Pro Mode also? The reasons is simple, as colors are much more accurate in THX / Pro.

    Thanks !

  110. I thought I made the best deal with this tv but it was not. When i turn on my TX-P42G20 it switches to brightness level 3 and after a couple of seconds it switches back up 2 full brightness levels. I don’t know want to do?

  111. Need it for hooking up to my Xbox. Can I have some feedback from others about the please. Want a 46 inch g20. Saw one in the shop, looked stunning. Obviously can’t take Xbox into shop though. Worried about input lag. Don’t want LCD though. When I spoke to Richer Sounds they seemed to steer me away towards the LCD option.

  112. I have a 42in G20, had it for a few months now, very very pleased, black levels are amazing if you fiddle with the settings some, input lag is not noticeable in gamemode (and I’m quite sensitive to it).

    To those who’ve been warned off by Richer Sounds, while they are better than most at hiring people who are actually a little bit technical, no good salesperson will prioritise truth over profit. The truth is profit margins are much lower for plasmas then LCDs and especially LED TVs. If you’re spending nearly a grand anyway, most places will push you towards the ultra-thin (30mm) LED TVs, which people are wowed by its thinness, but the image quality (black levels and input lag) isn’t quite as good as a plasma of similar price. And forget about LCD, thats low-budget country. Go with plasma, you won’t regret it.

    The ‘buzz’ the a plasma makes is quite loud on this TV, but anyone using a TV this good _without_ a good surround system is an idiot, and a half decent sound system will drown out the noise easily.

  113. Had the P42G20 for a few weeks now and the performance with the XBOX is amazin. had been using a samsung LCD and the very 1st time i put on black ops with panny, it was like on speen, the response is amazing and picture is glorious. i have definetly noticed the difference and so would definetly recommend it to any gamers out there. USB feature is class as i can watch divx files without any issues. My only gripe is the Freesat/Freeview guide, they dont show the channel you are on when viewing the guide but thats only a very minor issue and down to personal choice. HD playback is brilliant and picture settings are plentifull. I read somewhere that it can take upto 80 hours of use before it reaches its optimum performance – i should be there soon…..

  114. Flicker on plasma sets is very easy to see for me. I detect it instantly. Unforunately, Panasonic’s new LED edge-lit models also shimmer for me in a way that the LCD models do not. The Sony models do not do this. I have no explanation as to why the Panny LEDs seem to flicker but I hope this is only a temporary blip.

  115. After reading various reviews over Christmas I narrowed down our choice of a new TV to 3, ie. Sony KDL-40EX503U, Samsung LE40C650 or Panasonic TX-P42G20. This was to be our first, long-awaited panel TV since living off donated CRT’s in recent years as each soon died – you’ll see how I’m jinxed with electricals.

    Anyway spotted a sudden big price drop in Sainsbury’s sale for the Pany to £639 and so with it’s extra features (eg. FreeView/FreeSat HD, USB record, network/internet) bought it on-line. It arrived brand new still sealed in box – took it out to find screen was shattered – noticed box had slight indent marks on sides obviously from clamping or fork-lift. Sainsbury’s were then out-of-stock, not getting any more, said were end-of-line. Moaned like hell and got £50 voucher compensation.

    Bought another Pany on-line from Currys at £664 using 5% off code – it arrived sealed while I was at work and the wife accepted it but driver insisted on opening box to check it. When I got home and took it out of box found screen had a 3 inch scratch – not sure if was there from manufacturing or if delivery man did it while poking around in the box (eg. rings or watch on his hand). Sent it straight back.

    Bought another Pany on-line from Tesco at £704 – but when switched on found it had a couple of dead pixels and we saw the plasma screen was far too reflective causing distraction in our room with the lights/windows/patio, it was like looking in a mirror. However, like most reviews we found the picture quality was superb and sound quite good as well – we only have Virgin Media cable giving standard definition at the moment. Sent it back.

    After further reading bought on-line an anti-reflective LCD, the Panasonic TX-L42D25B with side LED’s – because again it was top rated, had same extras as the plasma version and I noticed was quite cheaper than usual at £678 from Dixons using 5% off code. I did not want to get the Samy C650 because on reading and checked in store it has a shinny screen coating “Ultra Clear” which badly reflects. So I set up the Pany ‘D25 during daytime and pictures on SD again superb, sound fairly good, but it was not quite so natural looking as the plasma just being a bit more sharper and more vibrant colours – I thought this was better but wife did not, though of course the matt screen helped greatly with reducing reflections. But then, a problem appeared that first night when I stayed up late to enjoy the technology and it became noticeable in a darkened room. During dark scenes I saw some whiteness patches, especially round the screen edges. On quickly Google’ing and reading some reviews feedback I found some others had this same issue though some not for “backlight bleed/non-uniformity”. Puzzled, I had a closer look at the TV with it tuned to a radio station no picture (black screen) but LED backlighting still on – I clearly saw on the bottom edge each side of centre was 2 semi-circle whitish patches about 6 inches across fading as further away from the edge. There was also a couple of similar but smaller patches on the screen side edges. Looking down the screen from directly above I could see part of the LED lighting along the bottom edge shinning up from gaps between the actual panel and the plastic frame casing ie. like using a torch to shine onto front of the screen. Similar was seen in places at the sides. Basically the edge lighting was not properly enclosed and casting illuminated patches onto darkened screen. I could even push the panel inwards slightly in these places (about 2-3 mm and it rattled) which made the problem much worse. I went into some local super-stores to look at those on display and found some had same issue and some did not. Sent ours back.

    Finally, decided to buy the Sony KDL-40EX503U which now had dropped to typically £599 – bought it online from Sony direct with 5 year guarantee (same deal was available at John Lewis and M&S). It’s up and running, no problems found (yet?) and again has superb pictures with our SD cable, good enough on sound for general viewing not being tinny – we are really pleased with it overall. Out of box set-up was excellent, though I want to try improving the blacks so that they look slightly greyer and show more shadow detail – can anyone suggest best way to do this, which settings to change. I’ve tried using this review by David calibration settings mentioned in earlier post – but blacks still a bit too black and overwhelming on some programmes for us. This issue seems do vary from channel to channel and programme to programme with some being good on blacks and others with over-blackness, so I don’t know if its more to do with the broadcast quality/compression? Any advice appreciated.

  116. Hi,

    I am thinking of buying a panasonic plasma. Is it wise to buy this generation plasma, or better to wait for next gen? My options are as follows:
    G20:700 euros
    V20:950 euros
    vt20: 1130 euros

    Any tips?

  117. I am watching Hells Kitchen on my new 50inch G20 (had it one week now!) and have noticed a very light green tinge on parts of the chefs whites (usually around the creases where a shadw is caused). I am aware that some people have mentioned a green tinge, and I was wondering if anyone on here has any recommendations as to teh settings I should use. The TV is only a week old, with about 55 hours of viewing. Will this tinge go away?

    I am currently ‘burning in’ the TV. The contrast and brightness is at under half on the bars (just over a third from the start) and colour just a litlle bit more (all are under 50%). Other settings are as follows:

    Colour balance is cool,
    Vivid colur = Off,
    CATS = Off
    PNR = Off,

    HAve I got a dud TV? The tinge isnt that obvious/its pretty marginal to be honest but its is noticable now that I have seen it. Is this something I will just have to get used to?

  118. What are the settings for D65?

  119. D65? – is that for me?
    If so I don’t know what D65 is.

  120. * * * DO NOT BUY – YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. Read Below * * *

    Nice telly excellent picture quality. However, the telly was sold to me last September on the strength that Panasonic were going to release BBC iPlayer for this model of the telly.

    When nothing appeared by December, i contacted Panasonic who told me the software was undergoing quality testing.

    I finally contacted them early May only to be told that Panasonic will not be doing any further development for this range of TVs. They did say that I should instead use their “Acetrax from which you can also watch movies on demand.” THIS IS A PAY CHANNEL. If I knew this at the time, I would have never bought a Panasonic.

    I wish I bought a Samsung, LG or Sony TV. As far as I can tell, they deliver what they promise.

  121. So I shouldn’t buy a TV because it’s missing some gimmick feature? Can’t say I care ether way about iPlayer, but if that’s your priority over picture quality then that’s your choice I guess.

  122. high i have this tv in 50 ,
    amazing
    set pic to thx
    sharpness to 0 0r 50% for sd viewing
    set sky hd to auto as the tv scales much better than sky reciever
    its a superb screen
    and it is a pioneer screen with most of features of kuro tv except for black filter which gives pioneer slightlt better black at cost of dull whites and poor motion

    buy this now

  123. hello there can anyone measure the input lag because when measured against and Lcd it would increase it from 0-10ms and with IFC on it would make it worse so please could someone measeure it against a CRT thats why I only trust David’s reviews Thanks.

  124. Also how is black ops on it how were your kills like easy-hard good killstreaks e.t.c

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